23 Jul 10
10 Bot Accounts Found at PokerStars
A few days ago, it was reported that 10 accounts at PokerStars were considered to be part of a bot ring. Investigation revealed that the accounts were indeed bots and PokerStars has disabled them.
A so-called "bot ring" was uncovered at PokerStars earlier this week, when a 2+2 forum poster made a thread where he noticed a significant amount of similarities between three accounts. According to him, they seemed to always play at the same tables stakes, follow the same betting pattern and move down in stakes almost at the same time.
After the 2+2 thread was created, more accounts were found having a very similar pattern, and the tracking site PokerTableRatings (PTR) started its own investigation on 10 accounts, using its database. The accounts in question were:
| 7emenov | bakabar | craizer | mvra | nakseon |
| kozzin | demidou | koldan | Daergy | feidmanis |
Using a total of 28 different stats in this investigation, PTR concluded that the similarities were too great to be a matter of chance, adding that the stats on these 10 accounts were virtually identical.
Overall, these accounts played a total of 8,320,121 hands at the PokerStars No Limit tables, with limits ranging from NL 50 to NL 200. According to PTR, they generated a profit of $57,839, as well as $186,572 in rake.
PokerStars also investigated the issue internally and reached the same conclusion, closing the accounts soon after. However, the poker room representatives claim to have found two more accounts as part of this bot ring, which they immediately shut down.
A PokerStars representative said: "All 12 bots cashed out a combined $223,150. Of this, $74,439 was profit from ring game play, $6,305 was from VIP Freeroll tournament winnings, and $142,406 was from various bonuses such VIP Stellar Rewards Milestones and VIP Store purchased bonuses. We confiscated $2,084 in cash and $4,446 in unspent FPP value from the group."
PokerStars came across a similar situation in May 2010, when it came across a case of mass collusion in their Double-or-Nothing tournaments. The poker room froze the accounts and confiscated approximately $84,000. The players cheated were compensated with approximately $2.1 million after this incident.
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h0ney21, 23 Jul 10 15:00
that's good! kick that kind of players#2
Shinerseb, 23 Jul 10 15:12
there are like 1000x these 12 bots found today :|#3
daleetpork, 23 Jul 10 15:18
oh noez ; what i haz to do now!:(#4
blackops888, 23 Jul 10 15:56
I thought they would never do anything about it. I would name two other bots on NL2: taxituna and OZN2007terra. This last one has made over 5k on NL2 alone, playing over 24 tables like all day long. Check that on PTR...#5
Alficor1, 23 Jul 10 16:24
That OZN2007terra bot is sick. I mean, how can any human be so consistent in his winnings?#6
fewri, 23 Jul 10 17:42
omg,this is crazy,and u wanna win some money heh never,better play just tournament low buy in and that is that,its my opinion,sorry.#7
Escobario, 23 Jul 10 18:09
whats to say u couldnt beat a robot fewri#8
dashe, 24 Jul 10 09:43
So they just closed the accounts, confiscated 2k and that's it ?#9
fewri, 24 Jul 10 12:33
ehhe,that's big site like POKERSTARS!! and my friend played pokerstars, he is -950$ track on Poker Table Rating nick is 4lala4,he cant win never in that site,he have won some money on i Poker 2400$,and Party Poker 1200$ ,in tourney and some cash, im sorry for this but is true.Escobario ;) yeah its true u can not beat robot .#10
Agiz19, 24 Jul 10 13:49
oh shit i played those bots and lost#11
Agiz19, 24 Jul 10 13:56
will pokerstars be giving money back ??#12
stevegold87, 24 Jul 10 14:30
online poker is rigged:(#13
fewri, 24 Jul 10 15:32
They need to bring back that money to all involve players,i think so!!#14
fewri, 24 Jul 10 18:19
OMG OMG OMG LOOK AT THIS OMG OZN2007terra#15
ItsBeno, 25 Jul 10 13:10
When i played like a bot i noticed soooo many actual bots, all from places like guangdong and xiou chai. If you see players on cash tables, especially short stacked that just open shove and come from places similar to those, they are bots. I could give plenty of names.#16
fewri, 25 Jul 10 13:44
Beno if u have any bot please contact me and we will make a lot of money loool ;).#17
fewri, 25 Jul 10 17:51
thinking player can beat a bot but only if its only one at the table. from my experience they were 3-4 at the same time.#18
SalamiandCheese, 26 Jul 10 00:13
They should give compensation to the affected players absolutely. Contact PS support if you played any tables against them. It's hard to get above breakeven against a bot, don't play them and report them imo.#19
Hahaownedlolz, 26 Jul 10 09:22
I don't think the players should receive any kind of compensation. The bots did NOT cheat. Yes they broke the rules by using them. But the bots play the same game we do. Although i don't think beating a bot is as easy as most of you pretend it is.A very good bot could do everything a human can but does emotions never affect him. It never follows its gut. It has the stats and then makes the best decision. Plus considering most people multitable i think it'd be very hard to play profitable against a well made bot.
To find the leaks in it's plays, if there are any huge leaks ofcourse. it'd take alot of hands to actualy figure them out and exploit them..
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TomasSan, 26 Jul 10 12:27
i had this situation when playing on bet 365 and cake poker, player groups that never play each other and share information to profit from others, scums :(#21
fewri, 28 Jul 10 14:33
Dont play pokertsars,they are all bots and they stole my winning money on tourney!!