29 Jun 11
Full Tilt Poker’s Operating Licence Suspended
The Alderney Gambling Control Commission (AGCC) has suspended the licences for Full Tilt Poker. All games are paused, cashouts not possible.
The AGCC said in a statement this morning:
"The decision to suspend these licenses follows a special investigation prompted by the indictments unsealed by US Attorney General’s Office in the Southern District of New York on 15th April 2011, during which grounds were found to indicate that these licensees and their business associates were operating contrary to Alderney legislation."
Currently it's not clear whether this is a "suspension" or whether their licence will be revoked. We assume, however, that Full Tilt Poker will apply for a new license in a different jurisdiction.
We will keep you updated with all the details as and when they come in.
Here's the screen that appears if you try and withdraw your money at present:
Update 11:05 GMT
It seems that all Full Tilt Poker servers have been taken down currently and on fulltiltpoker.com appears the message "scheduled maintenance".
Update 11:15 GMT
The AGCC published a further press release, saying that the hearing will take place on July 26.
Update 14:00 GMT
Moneybookers have sent an Email to their customers, saying that they stop business with Full Tilt Poker. View the full Email here.
Update 16:30 GMT
Gambling Supervision Comission releases statement according to which the PokerStars licensing status is unaffected by the Full Tilt Poker issue. Read more about it here.



#1
Aruniux, 29 Jun 11 10:47
great ....#2
itSmIn3z, 29 Jun 11 10:47
oO not good...#3
MightySparow, 29 Jun 11 10:49
nice bad beat#4
nativehero2007, 29 Jun 11 10:50
Im glad I don't play there anymore...#5
Oksiu, 29 Jun 11 10:50
lol#6
azllbg, 29 Jun 11 10:53
LOLOLOLOLOLOL#7
alejandrosh, 29 Jun 11 10:53
I saw this coming since black friday, the bad thing is I couldn't do anything to save my bankroll#8
Gerv, 29 Jun 11 10:54
uhoh#9
tcs35, 29 Jun 11 10:54
Press Release from Alderney:https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=explorer&chrome=true&srcid=0B5hmWJY3rs91MjMzOWJhNjMtODY2MS00MTJlLTgxZDUtMDk4YWYzYTg0YTJi&hl=en_US
#10
PaulemannPoker, 29 Jun 11 10:54
Ok... No money in online Poker. Everyone is stuck#11
karbonade123, 29 Jun 11 10:55
my 100$ :( I hope I wiil get them.#12
jaszvitez45, 29 Jun 11 10:55
my $2k fuckit ftp#13
TrufflePig, 29 Jun 11 10:59
I remember how much I was panicking when everyone started going crazy in the chat boxes on black friday, still kept my money in though, great decision#14
HollyMichelle, 29 Jun 11 11:00
I bet Stars are laughing right now :)#15
pyure, 29 Jun 11 11:02
bye bye full tilt, I always liked you the best :( Will pokerstars be next ?#16
benbomb, 29 Jun 11 11:05
Oh my God! Just when i started to take poker seriously. What will happen to the players' money???#17
pyure, 29 Jun 11 11:06
Can't log onto merge network now either...making me nervous !#18
ArtisSkirpa, 29 Jun 11 11:07
got like 5k there, cashed out 1.5k as soon as this news hit, got approved instantly. Really scared now#19
alejandrosh, 29 Jun 11 11:07
@14what if stars is next?
#20
TrufflePig, 29 Jun 11 11:10
fulltiltpoker.com says 'The system is currently down for scheduled maintenance, please check back soon!'#21
alexello, 29 Jun 11 11:11
welcome to pokerstars and party poker!lol
#22
Zhusy, 29 Jun 11 11:12
this is what I call pwnage XD#23
ArtisSkirpa, 29 Jun 11 11:12
Is anybody else having problems connecting now?#24
DannyG13, 29 Jun 11 11:14
#23, yeah I imagine everybody is#25
JHTAN, 29 Jun 11 11:16
#23can't connect.
wtf, bye my bankrool.
#26
izwordsworth, 29 Jun 11 11:17
#19 Stars licence wont be changed or annul. Its official.#27
Saruniks, 29 Jun 11 11:23
illuminati.It will launch Zynga possible worldwide and will make trillions.
#28
CoreySteel, 29 Jun 11 11:31
#26, link?#29
Lim00n, 29 Jun 11 11:33
How can you still have FTP under your poker rooms after all this s***!!#30
jasonforan, 29 Jun 11 11:33
Statement from the AGCC > http://www.gamblingcontrol.org/userfiles/file/Website Statement - FTP suspension 290611.pdf#31
jozata, 29 Jun 11 11:35
nooooooo,good bye cruel world...PS:tell mama I loved her
#32
Tomaloc, 29 Jun 11 11:35
Oh my rush!Oh well.
#33
tweelingen, 29 Jun 11 11:36
FML#34
jasonforan, 29 Jun 11 11:36
^^ Ok link above wouldnt work just go here and theres a link to the pdf from the AGCC > http://www.parttimepoker.com/report-full-tilt-shut-down-by-alderney-gambling-commission#35
Glopslart, 29 Jun 11 11:39
I had doubts about FT ever since the Clonie Gowen dispute a few years ago.#36
tcs35, 29 Jun 11 11:39
Website is now offline#37
w34z3l, 29 Jun 11 11:40
There goes my bankroll. I guess it's a good time to quit poker.#38
Heffron89, 29 Jun 11 11:40
I wonder how peopel even could play there after Black Friday which revealed how damn shady that site was, beyond my imagination#39
ArnoldtheClive, 29 Jun 11 11:40
what does the 11:20 update mean?does it mean its restoring it now?
#40
tcs35, 29 Jun 11 11:41
@Update 11:20 GMT - Isn't that from a previous press release?#41
viewer88, 29 Jun 11 11:44
wat#42
ArnoldtheClive, 29 Jun 11 11:44
well it says new statement lol#43
kurrkabin, 29 Jun 11 11:46
Your Player ID: ########Date and Time: 2011-06-28 06:03:57
Transfer Number: ######
Payment Method: Visa
Amount: #####
Status: APPROVED
Your withdrawal has been approved.
Funds transferred by ewallet should be available in your account
immediately. Bank transfer withdrawals may take up to 10 - 15
business days to be credited to your bank account.
As you can see,this happened yesterday.Should I feel safe now or is there still a chance that my funds will be blocked?
#44
Glopslart, 29 Jun 11 11:49
And comment no 29 seems very much to the point!#45
Philnetz, 29 Jun 11 11:49
haha ps.de ihr absoluten versager, letztes update ist vom 16.5:http://www.gamblingcontrol.org/userfiles/file/Vantage media statement 20110516.pdf
#46
Philnetz, 29 Jun 11 11:51
sry in eng.: last update is from 16.5 and refers to the BF.#47
ArnoldtheClive, 29 Jun 11 11:52
damnit this is a sad day#48
tcs35, 29 Jun 11 11:52
#46 Yeah I was pretty sure that was aswell, someone made a mistake :P#49
RubyWesson, 29 Jun 11 11:53
woah my crappy brm paid off i busted out on this site like 3 days ago to just play at party, now i feel better about that.#50
ArnoldtheClive, 29 Jun 11 11:54
why dont they just let us withdraw our money and leave... this is just beyond unethical#51
MikesekCZE, 29 Jun 11 11:55
"Delays caused by these actions are in the process of resolution, with normal service now being restored for non-US players" that sounds good, but kinda weird...so this mean we should be able to cashout?#52
EmanuelC16, 29 Jun 11 11:57
All of you, rest assured FTP are working round the clock to get back to business... How else are they going to steal more from us?#53
KingMox, 29 Jun 11 11:58
Scary news.....hope this will get back on track prior to July 26#54
tcs35, 29 Jun 11 11:59
@#50 under their license they are not allowed to process withdrawals when their license is revoked#55
KingMox, 29 Jun 11 11:59
http://www.gamblingcontrol.org/userfiles/file/Media Statement - FTP suspension 290611.pdf#56
Slimijs, 29 Jun 11 11:59
Well, lol. I see the same thing happening to Cereus in a couple of days. The sad thing is I still have around 1k on Cereus that I could not withdraw since BF.Online poker is dead. Get a real job, faggots.
#57
sharkfisherman, 29 Jun 11 12:00
so we are left with PokerStars, Party Poker, 888 and Titan Poker.I hope it will all work out for ftp and that they will be back
#58
Suijj, 29 Jun 11 12:03
hope i will be able to cash out, stars, here i come!#59
ReedOwen, 29 Jun 11 12:03
AGCC statement according to FTP licence suspense:- FT isnt allowed 2 sign up new members
- FT isnt allowed 2 accept any deposits from current members
- FT isnt allowed 2 approve any cashout requests from poker accounts
- FT isnt allowed to offer any poker games or any other transactons
#60
JonikoP, 29 Jun 11 12:06
Great. 3k on FTP.#61
lynius, 29 Jun 11 12:07
Damn, this makes me want a Burger King.#62
ronekinky, 29 Jun 11 12:17
Yep. I knew it. The fish who limpcalls oop with 48s cant get his flush/trips this often. Ffs full tilt the fish go broke and stop giving him advantages you corrupt *****. You will make money even if you loose some fish customers. Now i hope for 100% random cards in the future. One step in the right direction?#63
Kuroari, 29 Jun 11 12:23
now I'm under rolled for NL100 sigh....#64
Tim64, 29 Jun 11 12:23
#62, ummm... what?#65
Lim00n, 29 Jun 11 12:25
#62 haha, pls stop playing poker if you don't trust the RNG...or move to a new site..or start playing risk, it's not rigged#66
justkyle88, 29 Jun 11 12:26
Wow. I'm so sorry for anyone involved in this. I busted my roll yesterday :)#67
achschelo, 29 Jun 11 12:29
Damnit, just when I was planning to work on my Iron Man mid year bonus :(I hope it comes back, can't see myself playing with any other decrepit software.
#68
lessthanthreee, 29 Jun 11 12:31
weeeeeee. lots of people are praying for some run good now. me included#69
ronekinky, 29 Jun 11 12:33
#64, obviously my post was not 100% serious.. but yes, i have been the victim of some sick sick sick bad beats for many weeks now and im tilting like crazy. It really feels like full tilt does everything to make sure bad players dont go broke so they dont loose customers. Sick sick stuff. End rant.#70
achschelo, 29 Jun 11 12:35
Someone buy PokerStars stocks quick!!#71
Ic3g3org3, 29 Jun 11 12:45
Hups, I wanted to withdraw last week and i didnt do it. Damn !!!#72
celui68, 29 Jun 11 12:49
wow i withdrew my entire bankroll minus a tenner or so 2 days ago because i was making a big purchase, thats the most good luck i have had all year lol#73
Haroldgold, 29 Jun 11 12:49
Public Enemy - Fight The Power @youtube#74
AugustusCaesar, 29 Jun 11 12:50
@Tom_Dwan just tweeted :Some pretty objective ppl who's opinions I respect are worried now that FT can't payout or find a buyer. Me too more I think about it
#75
tyrajyri, 29 Jun 11 12:51
#72 the money is not yet at your account? if it's pending, then it wont be there. because everything is frozen at this moment.not that lucky.
#76
Yoshimitsu77, 29 Jun 11 12:51
everyone use their 1 time right now#77
fruktpuff, 29 Jun 11 12:52
Damn, we just had a $530 stake start for someone on FTP a few days ago, doubt i'll see my part of that returned then..#78
Heffron89, 29 Jun 11 12:52
"Tom_DwanSome pretty objective ppl who's opinions I respect are worried now that FT can't payout or find a buyer. Me too more I think about it"
From tom dwans twitter
#79
Tycho32, 29 Jun 11 13:00
what next? damnit - should have cashed out last week.........#80
EmanuelC16, 29 Jun 11 13:07
#79:I cashed out 21 days ago.. didn't get approved during this time...
#81
pokerski, 29 Jun 11 13:07
If they would just pick some Joe from the street to tell them and to advise them how to handle black Friday.#82
ConanTheBarbarian, 29 Jun 11 13:10
I played FTP for real money. They want to take all your money, not just rake as we all thought. They let u win on micro and low stakes but on higher table, u are out and broke by several bad beats in a row. Rush poker was money machine for them. Glad to see that FTP is out of work. Not much better situation on other sites. Rigged and site players who play for them and see all cards even in a deck. U have no chance at all. http://fulltiltpokerrigged.blogspot.com/2009/08/full-tilt-rigged-confirmed.htmlIf i am wrong I would like to see is anyone get some big money on any site ?
#83
mbml, 29 Jun 11 13:13
fuck FTP, i wanted to cash out LONG AGO but they didn't let me, only managed to get 5k out of 25k#84
VBZg, 29 Jun 11 13:21
I give order to cash out 3 weeks ago, when one smart person from this site told me what could happen (after Ivey suit), guess i still was late couple of days. Buhahahh (I can only laugh now). Honestly....FTP go to fkn history and be reminder for future, because it will come back, and next time I will be ready.#85
DanMeaks, 29 Jun 11 13:29
@70.I would but FULL TILT HAVE GOT MY MONEY!
#86
Bliausmas, 29 Jun 11 13:32
Well now it's definitely rigged (or maybe fucked up) :(#87
ronekinky, 29 Jun 11 13:34
So wont this exact same thing happen to Pokerstars now any minute?#88
tcs35, 29 Jun 11 13:46
Just got a email from Moneybookers saying they are not llowing FTP to use their service anymore#89
Gavron23, 29 Jun 11 13:51
nice -1k downswing...#90
reno713, 29 Jun 11 13:54
my br....#91
Heffron89, 29 Jun 11 13:54
#88 so sick :S#92
tillsuccess, 29 Jun 11 14:12
Ahaha, nice -2k, we gonna make a party tonight, yea baby! so sick, gime my money back!!!!!!!!#93
jugglingbirdy, 29 Jun 11 14:19
how bout the iron man challenge:O#94
jozata, 29 Jun 11 14:22
yep,sickest downswing thus far,-2k,what have we done to desreve this crap???#95
HollyMichelle, 29 Jun 11 14:29
I had a fantasy freeroll this evening!#96
ipo44, 29 Jun 11 14:33
Anyone knows what was the reason of this?#97
TilTmuch, 29 Jun 11 14:33
glad i cashed out all cuz Hansen sent me warning about this comming :Dknew ftp is total BS and facefucked room :)
#98
Snodreliss, 29 Jun 11 14:34
This is fml#99
Guthans, 29 Jun 11 14:37
#98 +1, BR gone = badbeat of the century, and I thought I was running bad before rofl#100
clandestineAl, 29 Jun 11 14:41
I am still so shocked that people have been playing on it since BF. The same type of people playing shuffle board on the deck of the titanic and wondering why everyone else was running around crazy#101
Yoshimitsu77, 29 Jun 11 14:46
we will get paid out in full tilt hats and hoodies..........#102
RoyalBluff110, 29 Jun 11 14:47
..it's nice ti be important. but it's more important to be nice!#103
eteris, 29 Jun 11 14:47
at first it didn't let to cash out and now this shit... are you serious?#104
RoyalBluff110, 29 Jun 11 14:47
aha, and btw.. drama#105
Classified181, 29 Jun 11 14:48
@100 +1You trust a dog with rabies, your bound to get bitten....
#106
dw00d, 29 Jun 11 14:51
gutted! ive had a withdrawal processing since the 6th of june. no hope now >_<#107
w4terman, 29 Jun 11 15:00
i have 500$ on ftp or better say had?#108
MatejM47, 29 Jun 11 15:05
This reallly sucks for you guys. Thank god i didn't have any $$$ on tilt, but should we be worried about stars or other poker rooms at this point as well?#109
fewri, 29 Jun 11 15:06
yes i like to here this,nice job#110
Galador82, 29 Jun 11 15:07
Can anyone give us any info on how safe is Poker Stars atm?#111
awishformore, 29 Jun 11 15:07
I said for a couple of weeks FT is going down, everyone who didn't try everything to get his money off there was really careless imo.#112
JHTAN, 29 Jun 11 15:17
I think Full Tilt Poker will apply for a new license in a different jurisdiction. But how long it may take?#113
Heffron89, 29 Jun 11 15:23
#112 noone will want to deal with FTP after what have happened after Black friday.#114
Mira90, 29 Jun 11 15:24
I want my money back,what a terible news..#115
NatRPheM, 29 Jun 11 15:26
Tried and did not get approved.. did not think it would go this far... surely there are going to be consequences here for full tilt if they dont pay back our money. Just have to wait and see I guess.#116
OOMMbager, 29 Jun 11 15:26
holly sssss***** :(#117
Vinny80, 29 Jun 11 15:27
Lifetilt underway... run for cover#118
mallikarim, 29 Jun 11 15:38
If you got approved for withdrawal like 2 days ago, will the money come?#119
Heffron89, 29 Jun 11 15:40
#118 All the withdraws and deposits are stoped include if u withdraw 2 days ago or 10#120
mallikarim, 29 Jun 11 15:42
A great,feel bad for those who actually withdrew or have stuck large sums.#121
NeilSimpson, 29 Jun 11 15:46
havent played for 6 months.....got back to playing nl50 on ftp last week....going great.....then this.....FML!!!#122
apd1020, 29 Jun 11 15:47
I have 6 checks that have been approved but have been delayed in delivery (what usually takes 2 weeks is now pushing 6 weeks)... Does this mean I won't get the checks at all?#123
Helipacter, 29 Jun 11 15:59
*strokes his Stars desktop icon* I <3 oooooooooooooo#124
absolutezilch, 29 Jun 11 16:18
biggest winner is probly gonna be party poker. their plc status makes them the safest and most secure#125
pavels4444, 29 Jun 11 16:27
omg, i'm so happy I withdrawed all my 2,3K just before I went on a vacation to US where I'm now. Def had a bad feeling about that website... (left my money on PS bc they seem they're doing the business right)I have totally mixed feeling right now. I liked the FTP software the most, Rush poker was great ... oh well
I feel so bad for anybody who has a lot of money there ... but to be honest, if you followed the news, you might have been suspicious :/
#126
phantommm92, 29 Jun 11 16:32
well as the support was good all the time, + they made all my withdrawals quite fast i wasnt that concerned. now im shitting my pants#127
Jackalof, 29 Jun 11 16:32
eik tu nachui#128
Maxippouce, 29 Jun 11 16:50
Baby, I'm sorry, I have to cancel our vacations ....#129
biogas, 29 Jun 11 17:01
Well, back to freerolls on stars... I wonder if it will be possible to retract to pstrategy somehow, so we can keep learning.#130
slotsas, 29 Jun 11 17:10
Its like that you move to NLXXXX with all your money and move all in first hand#131
Aruniux, 29 Jun 11 17:21
to 130 ant FTP showed royal flush :D#132
TilTmuch, 29 Jun 11 17:22
gg maxippouce#133
muel294, 29 Jun 11 17:27
hyperthetical.if full tilt went into liquidation. Rush is patent-pending still isnt it?
would someone be able to purchase the technology. It would be a shame to see such an innovation die with full tilt
#134
Blade90, 29 Jun 11 17:39
3500 locked in ftp, fuck my life, if this doesnt get fixed im gonna become a criminal for sure......#135
rupucis2, 29 Jun 11 18:04
yeahh... my money gone!!btw
pokerstrategy should buy this soft and make it`s own label!!
#136
RoyalBluff110, 29 Jun 11 18:16
right..poker strategy should have their own room named STRATEGY POKER or so..fak it#138
Andyuk18, 29 Jun 11 18:24
What a joke FT turned out to be under the pretty software.No one from Europe should have kept money on there.
#139
darkslfc, 29 Jun 11 18:31
AndyUK Your Right Good Looking Poker Rooms But I Would Rather Play Poker Lol#140
achschelo, 29 Jun 11 18:38
#135 - you're a genius sir.I hope someone important hears you.
#141
Pornojunior, 29 Jun 11 18:49
So pokerstars and other site's are still safe? I don't want to get fckd in the aars 2ce...#142
TwiceT, 29 Jun 11 18:50
FML#143
Aerox232, 29 Jun 11 19:07
FML FML FMLWelcom PS. :d
#144
Tominho89, 29 Jun 11 19:13
Wp life, wp...... boom.
#145
mariostoona, 29 Jun 11 19:32
when you double your BR and maximize your graphs this sh%@ happens..wtf??#146
s4ng4, 29 Jun 11 19:57
everyone chill out, imagine the HUUUUUUGE scandal it would be if the thousands of FT players all got robbed of their money.. imagine the money that represents too.. more than 10M at the very least.. where would it go? Do you think the Gambling Control Commission would just freeze it for life? Give it up to the state? Naaaah... IMO you'll see your cash again very soon, I can't see it happening any other way, probably just some administrative lag...#147
bagirra808, 29 Jun 11 20:01
Hey fate friends,I really like 9 man regular speed SnG structure on FT. Maybe someone can offer poker room with at least a bit similar structure (no antes, blinds grow up really slowly). Thx and goodluck ;)
#148
Aerox232, 29 Jun 11 20:16
F*ck durrrr or Phil ivey life. :D#149
pyure, 29 Jun 11 20:20
@ #146: you'll see the cash again alright, but I'd be suprised if it's very soon...or soon at all.#150
BoyRobot777, 29 Jun 11 20:20
#146 you live in your world i see :)) alright lets just agree that they the superb gambling control commission doesnt let FTP to get away with this. OK. Now if FTP is broke, and they dont have that much money or any money at all to pay players back how the hell are you going to get them? All you see in FTP account are digital numbers, i can even write you here one... If they don't have YOUR money in THIER account how are going to get them? Just imagine a bank go bust. Do people get thier money after that? LOL... naive...#151
Lazar69, 29 Jun 11 20:26
#146 I hope your right... I yust wana play poker... POKER a way of living!... peace my friends XD#152
JazBenz, 29 Jun 11 20:43
holy shit im glad i still havent deposited on there... been thinking about it but my gut kept saying no lol#153
kiromanAAKK, 29 Jun 11 21:05
SICK!#154
funktor, 29 Jun 11 21:18
Tryed to withdraw 1/2 money on 6th April... money did not show up on Neteller till now :(...#155
bennisboy, 29 Jun 11 21:19
I wish we had more detail on why the license was suspended/revoked!Off to merge I go, had built up a nice BR from what i started with :(
#156
i5bet72o, 29 Jun 11 21:37
fml#157
nathanrenard, 29 Jun 11 21:37
Try to withdrawal 2 weeks ago. Was waiting for the money. Now that can't be good.#158
arsenalpz, 29 Jun 11 21:55
FML i was just starting to grind hard this summer.Now my whole BRM is stuck.But i think things will be alright after 2-3 months.Just i dont want to wait that much.#159
webby55, 29 Jun 11 22:05
Full Tilt is on Full Tilt!! Was a pretty Shxx site anyway. Good riddance to it.#160
Tavbi123, 29 Jun 11 22:19
everything is gonna be okayhttp://scottmatusow.com/blog/2011/06/29/fulltilt-poker-is-not-done-read-this-to-find-out-why/
#161
pavels4444, 29 Jun 11 22:20
#155 yes, would welcome it too. I think it is pretty clear thoughNot paying the US players, Cashout delays, the latest "maintenance" during a IronMan freeroll, not keeping the funds of players separately from company's funds. There was a lot of weird stuff around going on... Dwan not wearing patches saying he forgot them, Ivey in Ireland ... kinda adds up. I think that everybody who left most of his bankroll there is little bit a fool
#162
pavels4444, 29 Jun 11 22:24
#160 wish it was true, but people were optimistic about FTP paying the US players as well and???and my guess is that FTP will not be back on his feet in months to come
#163
CHARMANDER06, 29 Jun 11 23:09
well I was coming home to deposit 600$ onto FTP... LOL good thing I didnt#164
FlikstRR, 29 Jun 11 23:15
FML... 90% of my online BR is on FTP.. :(#165
cjchalmers, 29 Jun 11 23:17
(expletive deleted) USA(expletive deleted) FULL TILT
FML
#166
BattleHunter, 29 Jun 11 23:41
:/#167
marquisGrissom, 29 Jun 11 23:49
OMFG...Got my check from mail but still not deposited...what should i do?
#168
liam591, 29 Jun 11 23:53
its not their fault, blame the us government, sorry to the people that play their, but your not going to get that money back. its long gone. their playing games with the economy and now their using online poker as a tool to delay the inevitable#169
cjchalmers, 30 Jun 11 00:23
@168 the US started it ... full tilt finished it ...http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j_FiFEEqs3O5jgnZJDzsbdpP3tgw?docId=2779e64786b44d339fddc2d06321ef57
3rd paragraph
#170
cjchalmers, 30 Jun 11 00:24
also... it could have been avoided therefore it is their fault...#171
liam591, 30 Jun 11 00:40
lol its not their fault, its all been forced upon them they have been in a no win situatation, please explain why you think its their fault though#172
pavels4444, 30 Jun 11 01:09
#171 you explain why this isn't their fault. They didn't keep the funds of the players separately. That's the biggest problem, that got them into trouble. How come pokerstars was able to pay out US players and continue their business as usual? + the AGCC is not even american#173
penno10, 30 Jun 11 01:34
Even if FTP does work it all out, I would never play there again it's shocking how they have went about there business. Will probably move to Ipoker or Stars. Luckily I got my roll off FTP around Black Friday.#174
liam591, 30 Jun 11 01:37
pokerstars must have more money than full tilt lol. if the us government unfroze their funds then things woudnt be so bad, so in my eyes if full tilt goes fuked up or people loose their money, thats government fault#175
i5bet72o, 30 Jun 11 01:45
suck me ball Lederer#176
i5bet72o, 30 Jun 11 01:45
*my#177
i5bet72o, 30 Jun 11 01:45
*balls#178
pokerhughes, 30 Jun 11 01:55
#169 cjchalmers, 30 Jun 11 01:23@168 the US started it ... full tilt finished it ...
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5j_FiFEEqs3O5jgnZJDzsbdpP3tgw?docId=2779e64786b44d339fddc2d06321ef57
3rd paragraph
"The decision to suspend the eGambling license was in the public interest"
ermm its not in my best interest, and im guessing its not anyone else's best interest on FTP, i.e. the public.
Dont understand why america has such a hard on about online "gambling" its a joke.
#179
Dragar, 30 Jun 11 02:41
lol... and I deposited some more last month lol.. go me!!! hahaha.... :(#180
usun, 30 Jun 11 03:59
1 week ago deposited additional 500 there :(#181
Elcarita, 30 Jun 11 05:04
FullTilt is UTG1FullTilt Folds
#182
dochazard, 30 Jun 11 05:12
IF the USG hadn't made FTP fold its hands in the US market, would people have found out that FTP was being shady with it's accounting principles? Mixed blessing, IMHO.#183
iRozi54, 30 Jun 11 05:41
no summer holliday for me, was planing on withdrawing 60% of my bankroll to cover my trip and food...but now it seems i'm gonna spend my summer in a room trying to rebuild on other site :(#184
funktor, 30 Jun 11 06:09
http://www.subjectpoker.com/2011/06/full-tilt-looks-kgc/Tracerout already pointing there...
#185
phantommm92, 30 Jun 11 06:59
but imagine if they reopen full tilt again, all the regs will be completely gone, so only fish left, even if there would be like 5k players on average id still definitely play there. tho wouldnt keep that big of a roll there.#186
Phoenix2104, 30 Jun 11 07:16
Full Tilt has the best software and the best promotions by far. Not to mention the easiest opponents. All those complaining probably lost their money there by going all in on a draw that never came up, again and again, as I've seen many many times. I hope they get back into business soon, I'll be back playing there in no time.#187
ArtisSkirpa, 30 Jun 11 07:31
@#185 Me too! I'd cash out like 85% and leave some money to play the fish and clear my iron man bonus.#188
ankicasutalo, 30 Jun 11 07:31
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-poker-20110630,0,1800294.story#189
DoubleU007, 30 Jun 11 07:32
Es ist unklar wie sicher die sich selbst fühlen, aber wenn die ihr business einigermaßen im Griff haben, den fehlenden US Markt verschmerzen können usw. knallen bei Stars wohl seit gestern die Sektkorken. Ich habe auch nur noch ne relativ kleine bankroll auf FTP, aber im Grunde ist es um jeden cent der im Gulli bzw. in anderen Händen verschwindet (Eddy S. hat es im forum gut ausgedrückt, daß das Geld ja nicht weg ist...) schade.#190
Funkyowo, 30 Jun 11 07:58
FTP deserve to die!!!!!!! they are theif thief and thief. its not rocket science to figure that out.#191
stevegold87, 30 Jun 11 08:05
lol @ the first 10 one liners...#192
MojaDunja, 30 Jun 11 08:33
im glad to withdrawal my BR before the black friday. Till then everything just going down.#193
Infiesta, 30 Jun 11 12:18
lets go for lederer, find it and... well you know what.#194
liam591, 30 Jun 11 14:08
i dont think people quite understand, ftp is finished, no one is getting the money back. if you cannot see this you must be blind#195
Sepik256, 30 Jun 11 16:24
#193 .. quite naiive thinking i guess...Iagree that FTP is bunch of greedi bastards but FTP soft is the Greatest of them all and if there is anyone who have funds to buy it .. then i dont see any problems to take it cheap .. solve those dept issues and start to climb up to become #1 in online poker ..and all regs&fishes come back. . & more :D
Feel sorry for those guys who had all theyr BR in FTP .. i hope u get it all back ;)
#196
liam591, 30 Jun 11 16:38
m8, its not naiive thinking lol. ftp are in some serious trouble, if us government unfreezes their funds, things should be ok, but their not going to unfreeze them, trust me. i mean does anybody here even know the real reason they stopped online gambling???and who is going to afford to buy up ftp, and then pay everyone off to??
to be honest i havnt a clue how this is going to pan out, but its going to be ugly
#197
liam591, 30 Jun 11 16:45
and would every1 shut up, stop and think. stop blaming ftp, why do u all have to be so clueless#198
Sepik256, 30 Jun 11 17:28
well .. i think that in world is many investment firms who afford this kind of deal ..for example .. if US Legalize online poker and some US investment firm buy FT ..solves US players dept thing with FT .. then theyr market would be limitless .. and even if they must pay 2 b for this action .. theyˇll earn that money back in year and after that it will be all good again ..
i miss FT :P
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liam591, 30 Jun 11 20:32
hmmm,, your right,, but do you think they will legalize it? i really dont think their going to because they can't, i hope they do, but they wont. their playing games with the economy, basically the economy is doing badly, and online gambling is making things worse for for the economy, so their will keep it banned to delay the inevitable collapse of the dollar. matbe they will leagalize it and just tax everyone to death on it, wont be worth playing it then anyway#200
pavels4444, 01 Jul 11 02:41
@liam591 I really don't understand why you try to defend those idiots who have been operating FTP lately. If they kept players funds separately, none of this woulve happened. Pokerstars handled it and they experienced exactly the same situation as ftp did. Of course us government is partly responsible. But in the end it is only the FTP managers and owners to blame!#201
AmurskiyTigr, 01 Jul 11 05:02
It's sure a good time to return back to real world.#202
liam591, 01 Jul 11 10:03
not defending them at all, just trieng to see it from their position, maybe every1 else should too,,, instead of blaming the first thing that comes to mind. i really dont know how you can say its the managers and owners to blame, partly, yes, but if government didnt freeze the funds they wudnt be in this position, fair enough pokerstars kept their funds seperate, but thats not really the point, what were ftp supposed to do.obviously they coudnt afford to do that, wrong yes, but what would you do in that position.
#200 if you cant see whats happening you must be blind. and yes it would be a good time to see the real world.
open your eyes, government are playing a clever fuking game. and all you gullible people still completely blame ftp lol. fuking quality
#203
raizaway, 04 Jul 11 05:03
6 mths i've been playing with comp and this online poker is the best entertainment i've seen in my 58yrs BUT i would like 4 some one to be able 2 convince me BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT that the ones and zeros can't travel in reverse no what i mean .until that can happen 4 me i shall leave my wad under the proverbial matress.seems 2 me that there are plenty of smarties around the globe that can just walk into ya comp whenever they please#204
raizaway, 04 Jul 11 07:29
and surely back at base they can see what we have in our hands even if just 4 safety purposes ya no what i mean . i'd luv 2 work there if that was the case, i would make sure just a select few new about the key u press 2 show all,and i would have an open line 2 my cobber and a grin from ear 2 ear.call me cynical or full of miss trust but isn't corruption the new game in town well the old game that's out of the closet now 4 all 2 c#205
RRRobert, 07 Jul 11 15:44
FU FT#206
dapokawinna, 12 Jul 11 18:07
Who cares?#207
draza, 04 Sep 11 23:13
ban all the full tilt big name players from online and land based poker joints