15 Jul 10
Ongame Network Changes Rake Distribution System
Starting with the 15th of July, all players from the Ongame will see a different system for how rake is taken from a pot. This new system called "Essence" will calculate the rake players generate based on their contribution to the pot.
Ongame Network has just announced that it will implement a new rake redistribution model, called "Essence". This new system will be set in place starting with Thursday, the 15th of July.
What won't change:
• the total rake taken from a pot in a hand
• the total bonus given out across all players
• bwin also announced that they will not change the ratio of points given per dollar rake
What will change:
• how much of the rake taken in a pot is attributed to which player at the table
• resulting from this, how many bonus points the players at a table will gather
• resulting from this, how much bonus money and/or rakeback specific players will get
For determining on how to attribute the rake taken from a pot to the players at the table, the "Essence" system will take into consideration:
• the player’s style of play, pot contribution and skill level
• the long-term effects different players have on each other
Who will be affected by this change?
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| bwin and EuroPoker are two of the Ongame Network rooms affected by this change |
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Short-term effect on the individual player
• Players that contribute less to the pots and/or in average win money will be attributed less rake, i.e. they will gather bonus points slower.
• Players that contribute more to the pots and/or in average lose money will be attributed more rake, i.e. they will gather bonus points faster.
Effect on the system
As skins and affiliates are also earn money based on the rake their players generate, both will in the future have higher incentives to concentrate on recreational players that bring in money to the system.
Long-term effect on the individual player
With skins and affiliates being incentivised to focus more on recreational players that lose money, games at Ongame should become softer and marketing activities directed towards genuinely new players will increase. Ongame expects that especially for strong winning players, this will lead to overall higher winnings after bonuses.
As soon as we have more information, we will publish it!
#1
UltimateBlue, 15 Jul 10 16:44
Winning players pay more rake than before and must bear a heavy burden to finance fish marketing.#2
Xantos, 15 Jul 10 17:07
Winning Players don't pay more rake than before - but they will probably get less rakeback.The best thing is that this gives an incentive to skins & affiliates to concentrate to market towards recreational players, which should make a winning player's life much better on Ongame.
#3
Anssi, 15 Jul 10 17:22
So how does this affect strategy points?#4
wowadvisor, 15 Jul 10 18:20
skins and affiliates wont concentrate on recreational players because this means very little return for them.recreational players will lose money if they do not study the strategies and will not redeposit unless they are rich and spend money to enjoy themselves.
#5
dandycal, 15 Jul 10 20:40
So I lose as much as anyone from the winning pots due to rake, but I'm accounted for less... definitely doesn't sound nice to me.I wonder if the traffic will improve that much with such changes to make up for it.
#6
opal99, 15 Jul 10 20:57
it's def good for winning HU players, but I'm not sure about the rest tbh..#7
redskwerl, 15 Jul 10 22:36
why is it good for hu players?#8
opal99, 16 Jul 10 00:27
i take back what i said.. this is really strange move by network and only time will show whether it was a good one or not. Too bad is, that many b/e rakeback grinders may leave and we can guess where they'll go^^iPoker will follow with similar change or will turn into nitfest within few months...
#9
dwyt84, 16 Jul 10 04:24
if the b/e rakeback grinders will leave i don't see how its going to be a nitfest#10
datsmahname, 16 Jul 10 04:41
i say good luck promoting "essence" to high vpip fish who never seem to interested in the long term.This is a good move for LAGTAGs who are getting in more pots and should create higher player retention for fish who enjoy status stuff.
Maybe we'll see a better balance between short handed & FR games as well which would be nice.
Seems like nits end up getting pwned. rakeback pro's beware!
#11
redskwerl, 16 Jul 10 10:23
oh well. im very sceptical, i dont think getting slightly more points is what attracts the fish#12
dandycal, 16 Jul 10 13:16
@11: yeah, me too. It doesn't seem to be something they will even notice.