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StrategySit & Go

How to play after the flop

Introduction

In this article
  • If you raised before the flop, you play strong when you hold top pair or better.
  • If you didn't raise, you need at least two pair.
  • Don't bluff and don't invest your chips with draws.

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After learning what bankroll management is, which phases a tournament goes through and with which hands you can enter the pot, there is only one more point to consider: how to play on the flop, the turn and the river.

In principle, you differentiate between the hands with which you raised before the flop, and those with which you didn't. In the first case, you are the aggressor - one could also say that you have the initiative. This means you have a clear advantage as you will often put your opponent to a decision and don't necessarily need a strong hand every time.

How to play after you raised before the flop

If you are the so-called aggressor in the betting round, you have the advantage of being able to represent a strong hand.

Play strong with a top pair or better

In general, you want to have a good made hand, like top pair or better, after the flop. A top pair is a pair with one of your two hole cards and the highest community card.

 

An overpair is even better - it's a made pair on your hand that's higher than any community card.

 

Two pair, three of a kind, straights, flushes and better are also hands you want to play strong with.

 

These are the kind of hands you want to exert pressure with and, possibly, get all-in with. Of course, you shouldn't do this in all cases. If the community cards develop unfavorably and your opponent credibly represents a hand that beats yours, still wanting to go all-in no matter what would equate to burning your money.

You will see what nuances you can incorporate into your playing style in the advanced strategy articles. As a rule of thumb, you should remember that top pair is a strong made hand if you have raised before the flop.

Don't play draws

It's a different case for so-called draws, which are unmade hands that need another good card on the turn or the river to turn into a strong hand like a flush or a straight.

Flush draw
 
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You shouldn't play these kinds of hands in the early or middle phases. This might appear counter-intuitive at first, but starts to make sense when you remind yourself that a lost chip in a tournament is worth more than a chip you win.

A lot of beginners have a hard time letting go of a flush draw, which has a pretty good chance of becoming a flush. Don't fall for that trap. Especially in the early phase of a tournament, investing a lot of chips into one of these hands can be a deadly mistake, even if it would make perfect sense when playing a cash game.

Investing chips with a hand that is not yet a good pair or better is a bad idea that only rarely pays off. There are exceptions to this rule, however, which you'll learn in the bronze section after passing the quiz.

When to bluff

If you raised before the flop, one could say you're entitled to a bluff, the so-called continuation bet. Whenever you didn't hit a top pair or better on the flop, but are up against a single opponent, you should still bet.

At the same time, if you're up against a single opponent who checks, you can also bluff. If it doesn't work out and he doesn't fold his hand, you just give up your bluff.

In cases where you have more than one opponent, it doesn't pay to make a continuation bet anymore, though. The probability of a bluff succeeding and of all your opponents to give up decreases dramatically.

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Examples for practice
EXAMPLE 1
Before the flop - Blinds: 10/20 - 9 players
You are UTG2
  • You raise to 80 chips (with a stack of 2100)
  • UTG3, MP1, MP2, MP3, CO and BU fold
  • SB calls for 70 chips (with a stack of 1890)
  • BB folds
On the flop - Active players(2): You, SB - Pot: 180 chips
  • SB checks
  • You bet 120 chips
  • SB calls for 120 chips
On the turn - Active players(2): You, SB - Pot: 420 chips
  • SB bets 200 chips
  • You raise to 600 chips
  • SB calls for 400 chips
On the river - Active players (2): You, SB - Pot: 1620 chips
  • SB goes All-In for his remaining 1100 chips
  • You call the All-In

As mentioned previously, top pair is a strong hand if you raised before the flop, especially if you have the best possible kicker with the ace. You should bet about 2/3 pot-size on the flop.

This example becomes interesting on the turn. The opponent suddenly bets into you. This way of playing is usually only seen from bad players. It's supposed to be some kind of bluff or a bet that's meant to keep you at some distance. Whenever the opponent chooses this way of playing, you can be quite sure he only rarely has the best hand. That's why you should raise here.

After your opponent called your raise on the turn and puts all his chips on the line on the river, you don't have any other choice than calling the all-in. You might sometimes see very badly played hands like K2, but you will be ahead most of the time.

EXAMPLE 2
Before the flop - Blinds: 10/20 - 9 players
You are UTG2
  • You raise to 80 chips (with a stack of 2100)
  • UTG3, MP1, MP2, MP3, CO and BU fold
  • SB calls for 70 chips (with a stack of 1890)
  • BB folds
On the flop - Active players(2): You, SB - Pot: 180 chips
  • SB checks
  • You bet 120 chips
  • SB calls for 120 chips
On the turn - Active players(2): You, SB - Pot: 420 chips
  • SB bets 200 chips
  • You call for 200 chips
On the river - Active players(2): You, SB - Pot: 820 chips
  • SB bets 600 chips
  • You fold

This situation is different from the previous one. The raise before the flop is standard - after all, two queens are the third best starting hand in Texas Hold'em.

The flop unfortunately brings a king, though, turning your hand into something worse than a top pair. As you only have a single opponent and could possibly still be ahead, you bet the normal 2/3 pot-size.

On the turn, your opponent suddenly bets into you again. This time, the decision is close. You could fold here without trouble. But as the bet is quite smallish, about half pot-size, you can still call in this particular case. It shouldn't turn into a habit, though! The point here is that this way of playing a hand usually indicates a weaker hand from your opponent, and the bet isn't particularly big.

Your plan is: call the bet on the turn, and possibly another small bet on the river. If the opponent bets a big amount on the river, as happens in our example, you should give up.

EXAMPLE 3
Before the flop - Blinds: 10/20 - 9 players
You are UTG2
  • You raise to 80 chips (with a stack of 2100)
  • UTG3, MP1, MP2, MP3, CO and BU fold
  • SB calls for 70 chips (with a stack of 1890)
  • BB calls for 60 chips (with a stack of 2300)
On the flop - Active players (3): You, SB, BB - Pot: 240 chips
  • SB and BB check
  • You check
On the turn - Active players (3): You, SB, BB - Pot: 240 chips
  • SB and BB check
  • You bet 160 chips
  • SB and BB call for 160 chips
On the river - Active players (3): You, SB, BB - Pot: 720 chips
  • SB and BB check
  • You check

You raise with ace king again and this time, two players call. On the flop, both of them check to you, but as you didn't hit anything, you check, too.

On the turn, you finally hit your top pair, but there are a lot of possible draws out there - unmade hands with the possibility of becoming the strongest hand, like heart or diamond flush draws, for instance. After both opponents check again, you should bet here. You can even bet slightly bigger than 2/3 pot-size in order to protect your hand against draws.

After both opponents called the bet on the turn and the river brings the third diamond to complete a possible flush draw, another bet doesn't make much sense. There are only a few worse hands that would pay you off. You run the risk of paying off a flush or another better hand, however. The best action here is to simply check and take a free showdown, which you will often win. Betting here would be pointless, as only the hands you can actually beat would fold.

How to play if you didn't raise before the flop

Play strong with two pair or better

If you didn't raise before the flop, the relative strength of your hands somewhat shifts. You should now have at least two pair in order to play strongly after the flop. You should give up on hands worse than that, especially against several opponents.

This might seem counter-intuitive again, especially when you happen to throw away a small overpair, but as we have already repeated so often, tournaments are played differently to "normal" poker.

Don't play draws

As we have seen for the case where you're aggressor, you shouldn't play draws - hands that can improve into a flush or a straight.

What might be correct in a cash game can easily be wrong or even a disastrous mistake in a tournament. This is true in particular for draws. The chips you can possibly win are worth a lot less than the chips you risk.

When to bluff

If you weren't the aggressor, you shouldn't be bluffing either. You can sometimes consider it when you're up against a single opponent that has to play before you, he checks and if the community cards don't seem to have helped any hands.

In general, bluffs bring you into such marginal situations, however, that you would do better avoiding them completely. Players have a hard time letting go of all kinds of random hands, especially on the lower limits. A good strategy to counter this would logically be to wait until you hit a good hand, then play it strong.

QUIZ
Examples for practice
EXAMPLE 1
Before the Flop - Blinds: 10/20 - 9 players
You are in the BB
  • UTG2, UTG3, MP1, MP2 and MP3 fold
  • CO and BU call for 20 chips
  • SB calls for 10 chips
  • You check
On the flop - Active Players(4): You, SB, CO, BU - Pot: 80 chips
  • SB checks
  • You check
  • CO bets 80 chips
  • BU and SB fold
  • You fold

You have a so-called flush draw on the flop, meaning you have the chance to get a flush, if the turn or the river brings one more spade. Betting yourself would be pointless, as it would only be a bluff, and the chances are slim that all three opponents will give up their hand. You therefore check.

After the player in the CO bets pot-size, the hand is over for you. Even though your hand might look very promising, it doesn't pay to call such a high bet. If he was to bet only 20 chips, you could think about calling.

EXAMPLE 2
Before the flop - Blinds: 10/20 - 10 players
You are in the BB
  • UTG1, UTG2, UTG3, MP1, MP2 and MP3 fold
  • CO and BU call for 20 chips
  • SB calls for 10 chips
  • You check
On the flop - Active players(4): You, SB, CO, BU - Pot: 80 chips
  • SB checks
  • You bet 50 chips

In this example, you have a similar situation, except that you hit the flush right away on the flop. You should make a play at the pot here immediately by betting about 2/3 pot-size.

A lot of beginners tend to slow-play here, meaning they will check in the hopes that another player will bet. This is a capital mistake. Just remember one simple rule: on the lower limits, your opponents are a lot more likely to call a bet than to bet themselves.

If you have a strong hand, play it strongly. Don't try to trick your opponents, as you will usually end up tricking yourself. There won't be anymore chips in the pot unless you bet. Additionally, there are quite a few hands that would kill any kind of action on the turn, for example another spade. No one will want to invest much more into the pot then, as you already have the ace to the flush.

EXAMPLE 3
Before the flop - Blinds: 10/20 - 10 players
You are in MP3
  • UTG1, UTG2, UTG3, MP1 and MP2 fold
  • You call for 20 chips
  • CO and BU call for 20 chips
  • SB calls for 10 chips
  • BB checks
On the flop - Active Players(5): You, SB, BB, CO, BU - Pot: 100 chips
  • SB checks
  • BB bets 70 chips
  • You fold

In accordance with the starting hands chart, you entered play with a pair of nines. On the flop, you even have an overpair. You shouldn't overrate it, though. The bet from the player in the BB is a clear sign to give up your hand here.

There are 4 players in the pot, and you merely have the smallest possible overpair. There are a lot of possible strong draws, too. Raising would be completely overplaying your hand. If you just call, however, there are an estimated three billion cards you don't want to see on the turn.

Even if you are still ahead, chances are big someone will catch up, and you will never know where you're at with this hand. If you understand why you should even fold an overpair in this situation, you've already made quite some headway in your poker career.

How big do you bet or raise?

If you bet, you usually try to make it around 2/3 the size of the pot. If someone has bet before you and you want to raise, you should raise to 3 times his bet. The more players that have called a bet, the higher your raise should be, preferably adding another size of the bet to the size of your raise per calling player.

If you have to put more than half of your chips in the pot, however, you can just go all-in right away. You will not be able to get away from your cards later anyway, as the pot is simply too big by then.

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Summary

This hasn't been so much to learn after all, and the strategy for play after the flop isn't that difficult or extensive, either. The reason for this is, that you don't want to get into marginal situations in the early and middle phases, and that there is hardly any play after the flop in the late phase of a Sit and Go tournament, thus limiting the postflop strategy that you need to know.

True to the motto that you only want to survive the early and the middle phase of the tournament, you can summarize the strategy for play after the flop like this: you want to hit a strong hand and to get paid off with it. If that doesn't happen, you can fold.

If you raised before the flop, any top pair or better is considered a strong hand. If you didn't raise, the strong hands start at two pair and up.

This principle is simple, but for beginners, it's not always easy to really follow it. You will keep getting into situations where you're tempted to bluff or call a bet. If you can't resist, this kind of poker might not be your cup of tea and you should try your luck at another variant, like fixed limit, where you can profitably play hands that would be unprofitable to play in Sit and Go tournaments.

If you now understood why you should play a tournament this way and in no other way, you are ready for the quiz. There are 20 questions concerning tournament strategy and your free starting money waiting for you - this could be the start of a very successful poker career.

All that's left is to wish you the best of luck, and don't forget that a lot of additional articles and videos are waiting for you in the advanced strategy sections.

 

Comments (74)

#1 DevilChess, 21 Mar 09 11:20

I played exactly as described here, no deviation from the text, for 3 hours at .05/.10 tables, played around 923 hands and lost 6.2 dollars.

That´s a 62 BB´s. If this style really is profitable, should not it tend to win with a high number of samples (923 hands, 102 blind rounds).

#2 DevilChess, 21 Mar 09 11:22

By the way, I win alot more playing my style, which is more loose and aggresive. Very different from what it says here.

#3 DevilChess, 21 Mar 09 11:24

Make that... 8.2 dollars, just lost with a two pair (an official all-in hand, according to the text, got rivered)

#4 DevilChess, 21 Mar 09 11:28

Sammy Farha said once: "When you go all-in you take all the skill out of poker."

With this type of play you always go all in. Honestly, I do not reccomend this style to anyone, it isn´t profitable, if I had to play a person with this style, I´d LOVE to be to his right and always steal his blind with 27o (only about 4/177 chances that he will defend his blind) he´d be forced to fold TT, AQ, AJ lol... cuz the rules says so.

#5 DevilChess, 21 Mar 09 11:28

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#6 DevilChess, 21 Mar 09 11:50

Flaws:
#1 The style is WAY TOO PREDICTABLE.
#2 You cannot take advantage of mid and low pairs in late positions when
the pot is called down and players are not aggresive.
#3 You cannot take advantage of suited connectors under the same circumstance as point #2
#4 Does not consider the style of play of the opponent, who might be stealing 100% of the times at SB, BTN or CO (you would have to fold AQ to his steal raise with mediocre cards)
#5 Can´t play a bluff i.e. Bluff-Bet the Flop 2/3 Pot to a Board with 2 Spades against 1 opponent, check the turn, get a third spade on the river, the opponent checks in fear (and you know he is a tight player) and according to this rules, you can´t bet, you must check.
#6 Basically ignores COMPLETELY the style of play of an opponent.

One can obviously see this style is non-sense.

#7 DevilChess, 21 Mar 09 11:52

If this style truly were profitable, there would be hundreds and thousands of bots playing this style at the tables making people rich.

#8 DevilChess, 21 Mar 09 11:52

.

#9 Andymc, 21 Mar 09 18:13

Wait a minute, what? You were playing a SnG strategy at a ring game?

#10 DevilChess, 21 Mar 09 20:08

Haha, No. I just put the comments in the wrong article. LOL

#11 DevilChess, 21 Mar 09 20:09

No, the SnG tips aren´t so bad

#12 DevilChess, 21 Mar 09 20:09

Can someone move the comments to the Short Stack Strategy article?

#13 Martynsp, 22 Mar 09 07:46

I don't really trust this article. I'm still a begginer, but I wouldn't listen to you in some situations. For example, I wouldn't go all-in with AK. There is about 19% less chance, that you will win the hand if only one oponent calls and his hand is random, which most of the time isn't. If he's calling you, that means he has something decent, making your win percentage even smaller. Also, if you go all-in with AK, you should also do it with with almost all Ax's, because going down from AK the percentage decreses very little, like 1%.
What is more, the strategy does not pay attention at board. If you have high pair, you go all-in, it sais. But shouldn't my strategy change, if the board pairs, if there is 4 cards to the flush (or 3 on the flop) or straight and I don't have missing card? Could anyone, please comment?

#14 lostromakos, 22 Mar 09 12:44

cool

#15 kingdippy2008, 22 Mar 09 14:53

Yh marty. AKs vs a random hand is 67% to win.
AKs vs JJ+ AJ+ and KQ (a pretty tight range)is 60% to win

AK is profitable in late stages of SnG's, beleive me ;)

#16 Martynsp, 22 Mar 09 21:28

Well, if you say so, I should follow the rules :)

#17 Martynsp, 22 Mar 09 21:35

The main advantage of this tactics is that you can actually learn it. In the book you will find "you can bet", "you can try to limp in" and so on, while here it is just a simple set of rules which you can follow. You dont really need to solve any problems at the table.

#18 nnaij, 24 Mar 09 11:41

Well, this article is useful towards beginners who have never played in tournaments before. From what i can see, all this strategy articles are not really here to help you win money at the start. But, this articles are here to make all of the begginers a thighter player. So that it will cut down the risk of beginners losing more then they will if they didnt read these articles. The advance articles + the experiences you get from playing on the table will slowly open you up, making you a more aggressive player, and slowly, a better player. Afterall, everyone should know this, a good poker player is made, and not born.

*Sorry for any grammer or spelling mistakes, English isnt my first language.

#19 Fushigikun, 30 Mar 09 22:24

Yeah, i agree with nnaij, I have been playing SSS for a while, and I noticed the first articles didn't take in account a lot of factors... but the laters one introduced a different way to play. I think it might be the same here: the first articles should only be focused into getting begginers used to the way of playing... the later articles should deal with more difficult situations.

P.D. Like nnaij, sorry if i have any grammar or spelling mistake. English isn't my native languague either.

#20 lhein, 04 Apr 09 22:29

if you play on Pokerstars it is obvious that you get something out of the loose aggresive style: that type of play is heavilly favoured over there!!!!

#21 Mstlc, 05 Apr 09 16:49

On low stake SnG's this guide provides a good way to play. You definitely don't wanna be playing loose aggressive as Ihein mentioned. Remember that people don't fold their cards that easily here. People calling 2 or 3 people that went all-in before them with J8 kind of hands is not that uncommon, especially during the early phase of the SnG's.

@ 13: AK is definitely a hand you wanna play in the later phase. It might be smart to fold it away if you're on the bubble, but in any other case if you only have like 10BB's left you should just shove with AK. If your stack is bigger you definitely wanna play the hand to and put pressure on the smaller stacks that will probably be going all-in with any Ace anyway. AK will give you at least a coinflip in a lot of cases.

#22 jakali, 07 Apr 09 16:35

guys that is poker, you have to look for players that do not know these tips. an amatuer can beat pro, but at the end of the day amateur has no pants. read more to correlate the strategy. for example in the begginig it told that you should go all with AA KK but in the starting phase i sometimes fold when there are more then two players (three with me). i got beats with worst combinations ever. everybody did. it is kamikadze especialy in the beginings fo tournaments

#23 mottsimon, 11 Apr 09 12:35

I think folding with KK OR AA pre flop at any stage is the wrong move. Doesnt matter how many people are in the game. Its like being in a race leading at the front and then dropping out the race and giving it the guy behind you..... There is one thing this article doesnt touch on... Its all very well waiting on great hands but unless you have luck of the gods, your chip stack will slowly dwindle to very little. And even if you do make it to later stages you are going to have to double up about three times to get your self in the money, Whats the odds of being able to do that??? I agree with the above posts. These articles are about teaching discipline. But you cant make a cake with one ingredient can you? The real art is being able to read other players. And thats all about observation.... players make the mistake of having bad experiences with certain cards and then rule them out of their game all together..... no you've just had bad luck on those cards.... Totally agree with the AK posts. Unless someone else has pockets your in with a good shout. And the only pockets that are a big dart through the heart when you got these cards are AA.... KK AND QQ NOT ALOT between them. But these are the 2nd and 3rd best hands in poker.... also if everyelse is folded theres a good chance there may be 2 - 3 aces left in the deck so your chances of picking up the ace with the house cards has increased....

#24 mottsimon, 11 Apr 09 13:01

to add to the above. All pockets are a danger to the AK. Coin flip situation. doesnt actually matter if it QQ KK OR 22. Still gotta hit that ace. So this article saying to fold when at least two other players in the game but its ok with one player doesnt make sense to me. Personally i would defo go in if my AK was suited! that makes a big difference to the AK unsuited. Gives you more of multi pot hand to play with against 2 + players plus you got more chance on the straight against pockets. Suppose what the article is trying to get across is that you shouldnt be coin flipping ever. But sometimes thats the only way you gonna build a stack if the cards dont come. would rather have coin flip chance with 2000 chips than wait for the right cards and double up when i got 500 chips left when the blinds are nearly as big as my chip stack!!!

#25 Mpincham, 16 Apr 09 18:30

the main point of the article is bank roll management, if u havent understood that the article is a lost cause. u will get those bad beats, u will lose where u should have won, but the strategy has been worked out mathematically and strategically to help in the long run. it also makes a huge difference between ak vs 22 or qq, because the board can pair more easily the lower the kicker.

#26 bakarash, 28 Apr 09 16:52

hello im already playing at pokerstars so how the fuck can i get bronze madafaking ... u know what i mean lol i know u must earn points and stuff but what if im already playing and made deposit and how the f.. do i get points now???

#27 mikasa1988, 25 May 09 08:42

@ bakarash
You can open a new account at another platform. Besides that there is very little you can do. Maybe you can contact PokerStars support and/or PokerStrategy support, and they might be able to help you.

#28 PiersM, 27 May 09 19:32

I find this information very helpful and it does lead to a successful run in a tournament but there is a big condition attached to that. i found that this strategy does work and does work well but only if all other players at the table are playing to the same strategy. If they are playing to thier own strategy then they can quite easily pre-flop raise you out of the tournament without you even seeing a flop. However having said that i have only just finished reading the basic strategy so there may be more interesting tips to come later on in the more advanced sections, for a beginer this guide is a good foundation i think.

#29 Delfic, 05 Jul 09 04:24

I read only this article. Went to a $1 sit'n'go and got in the bubble without playing any hand. And you reach push-or-fold phases real quick. Maybe i got lucky, but with only this strategy with a little twist i won that said tournament. The twis is i play FL for a while (different game i know) wich helped me with the reads. Another thing you have to pay more attention to is survive i did so and got lucky after the bubble, but getting there was textbook. This can really help you get to the bubble and if you can manage that in many of your tournaments you win on the long run.

#30 bax14, 15 Jul 09 08:34

you lost because this style has been developed for sit n go's and tournaments..... Not cash games! try short stack strategy which is ment for cash games....

#31 bax14, 15 Jul 09 08:35

that comment was for the guy at the top

#32 IRNMAIDEN, 20 Jul 09 14:49

i think folding the low over pair when you have limped in is a bad move, especially considering that most players will bet on a draw, and with the example of the flop (isnt too dangerous) definately worth a reraise at that point
this is a very very tight strategy that cant be used in low stakes sit n gos as the knowledge of the players in them limits is soo basic that you will recieve many bad beats.
as a previous poster said, if i had pocket aces and two or three people were already all in, i would fold too.
aces rarely hold up over three opponents...........
someone said "the worse the cards, the more money they will make"

#33 KevinC42, 25 Jul 09 22:28

This is an amazing site, I've been coming here for almost a year and it has taught me so much about this game. This article is a great start for beginners and helped me rise through the ranks. However, after hitting a bad-steak (not too bad due to bankroll management) i decided to come back and refresh on these ideas. This simple white article has helped so much to improve the major leaks in my game. I had been drifting into playing too many hands beginning and middle stages and had forgotten some good ICM concepts. Shortly after reading some of these and bronze articles on SnG's i ended my losing streak with a 1st,6th,1st in 45 man. Its not much to brag about, its just some positive variance, but seriously losing 20 or so games in a row doesn't necessarily have to be variance. This simple 3 part article gives you a perfect plan in which you know exactly when you should play at all times, which IS A HUGE advantage over most of the competition who usually have -ROI's. I find if you follow all these details and become relatively comfortable with post-flop, you become extremely relaxed in the tournament (except for all-in situations in which i'm usually praying for good luck or pulling my hair out). I get kind of mad when i read a great article, the skim to the bottom and start reading comments and they say horrible things about how they don't work. Take it from all the positive comments above and me, this strategy will get you to the bubble safely most of the time, and there, if you continue to become familiar with the ICM Trainer, you will have the greatest advantage to win the competition.

#34 lingwen17, 29 Jul 09 08:23

i haven't played for money yet but ever since i read this article my play money bankroll has only gotten bigger. love the advice and can't wait for the starting 50$. should be getting it today. thanks pokerstrategy

#35 09hamerj, 14 Aug 09 18:24

My friend transferred some cash to full tilt account and as I had played for many hours on-line for play money and the occasional live game with mates for small stakes I thought I kind of had it sussed. Nothing could be further from the truth as I realised my confidence was in fact hubris and the worst kind - unrelenting. After playing a few $1, $2, $5 S&Gs with minimal success - sometimes scraping into the bubble with fishy, loose plays I started to landslide. Not only was I playing way beyond my ability but my bankroll was far too small to support me for any prolonged amount of time.

This website certainly showed the professional side of the game and although I have not actually one any more S$Gs since studying - every time I have deviated from the basic strategy set out in the PDF document the hand has gone horribly wrong the majority of the time.

I have set up numerous accounts in order to further advance with in the website and yet the link isn't recognised. I really want to read the advanced articles - can someone please send me them or something?

Damn - I just lost all of my money, admittedly from some unlucky races in turbos and other fishy players but still as a result of not sticking the strategy.

Has anyone bought or used the statistics program advertised on this website?




#36 klucis1990, 01 Sep 09 07:33

Lol had AA three times a row and i go all in and my two opponents too go all in, and I lose against three of a caind or flush.

1) I had AA opponent1 57 opponent2 QQ flop 774 J 8

2)I had AA opponent1 JT suited opponent2 33 flop 657 suited then A and the river was Q and opponent1 won
3) I had AA i go all-in and an opponents all fold :D:D:D:D lol

This is stupid. now when i had AA I a fried to reise...or go all-in

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thank you very much!

#38 gearoi, 08 Sep 09 10:23

If anyone writing the articles reads this, I'd really appreciate some more info on why you should fold a small overpair as in example 3 -> I can do some basic sums on it but I'm a beginner and am probably wrong. Any further info / explanation would be gratefully received.

Apart from that - amazing stuff thanks for the articles - I am practising on play money for the moment just to learn the way around the charts, and I have my seed capital which I'll start playing with when I'm fluent in a) choosing right chart, b) knowing what it means I should do and c) understand how and when I lose more consistently.

It is very easy to get to the bubble in play money SNGs with these strategies, albeit with short stack by then. I am hoping that real money SNGs will have more tighter players tbh so I have still a respectable stack at bubble compared to the 2-3 doubled-up loose players I find at play money at the moment.

#39 hahahihi, 12 Sep 09 19:54

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#40 CDUKSHN, 08 Nov 09 03:07

IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT
This article is for T O U R N A M E N T play. To use this during cash games is a very bad choice.
I don't use this in my cash games which are very small stakes (1/2 cents) and I have won the last 5 times I have played.
What I do incorporate are the tutorials and articles which refer to CASH sng games.
However, since these strategies, after reading for one time, have increased my tournament duration by nearly 70%, I think I'll stick with it.
Although I have passed up several winning hands in each tournament, these guidelines are incredible but won't ALWAYS work. They do work quite often though.

#41 CDUKSHN, 08 Nov 09 03:07

IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT IMPORTANT
This article is for T O U R N A M E N T play. To use this during cash games is a very bad choice.
I don't use this in my cash games which are very small stakes (1/2 cents) and I have won the last 5 times I have played.
What I do incorporate are the tutorials and articles which refer to CASH sng games.
However, since these strategies, after reading for one time, have increased my tournament duration by nearly 70%, I think I'll stick with it.
Although I have passed up several winning hands in each tournament, these guidelines are incredible but won't ALWAYS work. They do work quite often though.

#42 Rebegea, 10 Dec 09 14:39

thanks great info

#43 tbomb87, 17 Dec 09 06:00

this is a good article for beginners. not only does it show how to keep control but allows new players to notice how often and how unlikely certain events happen. The reading of opponents, playing opponents not your cards and other more advanced skills will come later :)

#44 scabooo, 10 Jan 10 21:40

Wow I just had to write a comment for this. I've played 3 SnG's today, lost my first one - did some mistakes, finished 2nd in the 2nd one and finished #1 in the 3rd one, using this EXACT strategy.

Thank you so much, I am getting disciplined and having learned about bankroll management and how to play the hands in SnG's I feel confident of long term success!

Thank you PokerStrategy.com

#45 scabooo, 10 Jan 10 22:22

Finished 3rd in my fourth SnG for the day, still - made some money :D

The system works!

#46 Diabolikal, 28 Jan 10 22:38

there are three basic rules for tournaments...
good bankroll management...
patience...
intuition...

for me these BASIC TOURNAMENT GUIDELINES aren't all that bad...
feel the game...

i also won (playchip and freeroll for cash) tournaments before reading
these 'rules'
but since I have understood these BASIC TOURNAMENT GUIDELINES
I constantly go deeper than when I did before...
You have to FEEL poker, not obey a list of rules...
;8)

#47 Diabolikal, 28 Jan 10 23:02

ps
one good tip for ANY HAND...

THINK OF HOW MANY HANDS CAN BEAT YOU>>>
THEN YOUR OPPONENT>>>
THEN DECIDE>>>

RARELY... BUT RARELY ON A 'HOPE AND A PRAYER'

and good luck!!!

#48 Diabolikal, 28 Jan 10 23:10

pps

ALL IN is always luck...
never strategy...



unless you have the nuts...

#49 laurikoo, 30 Jan 10 17:35

I have a question I'm hoping someone more experienced can answer.

Now, I understand that if I'm on the BB and I have AJ -
There are two callers, i check.
Flop comes up with A J 7 - I shall make a 2/3 pot raise, because i have two pairs and that's the minimum of a profitable hand if I haven't made a bet beforehand.

Now, say that I have K 3 and I'm again on the BB. Two callers before me like before. I check.
The flop hits 3 4 4.
Should I consider myself as having two pairs and make the 2/3 pot raise or should i go safe here since the 4 4 are community cards?

Appreciate the help!

#50 stubbornd0nkey, 02 Feb 10 17:29

this article can be useful, it puts (probably too much) emphasis on things where are a lot of starters go wrong. I think it should be used as a guideline, not for strict bot like play. Loose and aggressive can sometimes mean youll be 1st/2nd instead of in the money, but also it usually means that you are not in the money as often. Bankroll management, thats the emphasis. Slow, but steady upward momentum is what most of these basic articles are about.

I'm waiting for my deposit, but I will use this as a good guideline when i start out (if i decide for SNG), especially the bankroll management part. However I will deviate.

You're not playing bots (hopefully) you're playing people, so human error and human tendencies should be taken into account.

If you see somebody get 2 bad beats in a short time, play him, be aggressive. He'll probably fluster, and think that its his turn for some good luck.

If you see somebody playing tightly, winning with the nuts (if a showdown occurs) fold when he raises.

#51 Koshburger, 06 Feb 10 09:15

ok

#52 blankcheque, 18 Feb 10 15:37

I have cashed in 10 out of 12 sng's using this strategy so thanks pokerstrategy.com. This article is good for beginners and to give them the discipline required to reach the latter stages of sngs.If u play tight early so should have agood chance of doubling up later in the mid phase of an sng

#53 thepowerplay, 27 Feb 10 16:12

for laurikoo above... because the 4's are community cards, you should not consider them when making a bet, as everyone has that pair also. you are still left with a lowly pair of 3's, and anyone with a higher pair will beat you. While it may be true they would fold to a bet, it would purely be a bluff on your part. If anybody called, you are almost certainly beaten.

#54 muel294, 21 Apr 10 02:04

Nice for beginners but a little too stringent, especially the not playing draws. Pot odds are an essential tool in understanding, why you should / should not call in a certain situation, although this is stated in other articles.

Also am I right in saying that we are always looking to go broke with the likes of TPTK or is this too much of a generalisation. I believe it might be profitable at lower stakes. All depends on preflop action and board development though.

Also not worth going broke on TPTK in early stages in terms of ICM IMO.

#55 muel294, 21 Apr 10 02:07

Oh and if you want to read a good book on SNG strategy get "Sit and Go Strategy" by Colin Moshman

Worth its weight in Gold. Sorry Pokerstrategy but I have to share its brilliance. It basically encompasses all articles and videos that you will find on here.

#56 MarcusKh, 26 Apr 10 23:12

Just wanted to add my own understanding of the strategy so far on the site... This is a guideline, which, for strict beginners in the game, could be followed to the letter, until they get a better understanding of the game.

These articles are about teaching you proper "BETTING" strategy... obvious... I know... but that doesn't mean you do not go with guts every once in a while, and most importantly, that you do not try to read others... I've laid down top pairs when I believed I was beat... and the unfortunate soul that actually called after my fold... lost to a very strong hand that didn't show... it was a hard read... in terms of cards... but should've been relatively easy for people reading...

Also, too many times as beginners, you would feel tempted to play suited cards regardless of what they are... the articles warn you not play them.... which is sound advice...

Again these are long run, online poker advice.... for smaller limits... When the blinds begin at $200, you would rarely find players going all in on idiotic cards... it happens... but much less than at the $0.02 tables...

Go for understanding the points instead of memorizing them!! and you should have a very strong starting point from which to build up your own strategy... isn't that what one of the articles suggests anyway?

#57 mattbaillon, 14 Jan 11 12:15

play like this and you will win, sometimes it doesnt work but overall it does. yesterday i played 9 sng, won 5 and 2nd in another - easy as pie, other days i may be a little down but as i say, in the long run you will profit. This article states many times that if you dont like to play like this and want to play aggressive, go play me on full tilt poker because i will win your chips. Goodluck

#58 fmcpc, 03 Mar 11 01:35

mattbaillon just said all... sometimes the strategy dont pays but at long term you can believe that pays... dont be afraid of fold with a good hand.... like QQ and with a flop with a K...

#59 Gunn56, 17 Apr 11 19:32

great article reading everyone from basic to the top beginning all over again so much info on this site I love it

#60 HunterCZ, 25 Apr 11 07:38

Well, I think this material is very good for beginners to get basic understanding of the game. The more advanced stuff comes along later. But in my opinion it is not optimal to play this style all the time in no relation to your opponent's tendencies.

#61 paned, 19 May 11 14:55

Hi! Can this strategy be used for 45/90 players sngs? Thanx

#62 IronMan519, 24 May 11 18:34

DevilChess... This strategy is for sit n' go. Don't play this way in a cash game!!

#63 Huckebein, 24 May 11 19:21

@61: 62 is right, cashgames are played differently. You can find all in our NL BSS section.

#64 Angelface21, 26 May 11 15:38

You never risk all your chips with top pair on a flop. you need to have at least 2 pair. I do not agree with the answer towards that question.

#65 Angelface21, 26 May 11 15:42

Six max sit and go asks for some adaption according starting ranges. The advice here is given for full ring sit and goes. In poker there is no fixed stratedy. It all depends upon your read and opponent playing tendencies. But I am not saying anything new by that!

#66 Angelface21, 26 May 11 17:54

Example 3 completely depends upon a players read. To just fold overpair blindly is also a mistake. If you think someone is on a draw here you should push him out of the hand. Also I think being first in you should open raise, cb flop. Kind of conservative play here. Again it depends!

#67 Angelface21, 26 May 11 17:55

Comment 66 points towards pair of 99

#68 FruitNinja, 10 Jul 11 14:16

I think the articles written here are good stuff specially for beginners like myself. If you just go and play without the knowledge in this articles, then you'll wonder why people are calling, raising, and going all in! After the article reading, you'll have some idea why. Thanks PokerStrategy team for this helpful site.

#69 drifter2009, 06 Nov 11 08:42

tthis is for tournaments, not cash tables

#70 mirac12, 07 Dec 11 22:13

idess

#71 dalmatinac1, 17 Dec 11 13:30

good stuff,,beinners bonly

#72 dalmatinac1, 17 Dec 11 13:31

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#73 skracy, 18 Jan 12 19:41

Do yourself a favor and do NOT even read this strategy. Since I've read it, I keep loosing. Before reading it I used to be a much better player - I think (and my bankroll shows it). This kind of play is too tight and predictable. Man, you won't get AA, KK and AK on a regular basis! This kind of play prevents you not from loosing, but from the actual play. And forget the promised $50 for free, you ID check will probably fail...

#74 Kraujar, 06 Apr 13 13:32

Skracy I want to play with you with biggest possible buyins and as long as i win all your money.

It does not matter how lucky you are short term if you bring all that money to my table after.

As they say, lets see who is the donk in the end of the day.

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