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Strategy: SNG: Sit and Go Tournaments

SAGE - Sit And Go Endgame System

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Introduction In this article HU situations with very high blinds The Power Index When to push or call all-ins SAGE (Sit And Go Endgame System) is a system which was developed for the situations with two players and very high blinds, …
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Comments (16)

#1 mouse89, 06 Oct 08 15:05

ok

#2 royko79, 31 Dec 08 14:59

I'll try this from now on. I suck at Hu's situations.

#3 AmosnosI, 17 Feb 09 12:07

The table only goes up to R=7, but SAGE is supposed to be used with a shortstack of R=10 or less. So what happens with R=8,9 and 10?

#4 AmosnosI, 07 Mar 09 14:24

Still no answer to my question...

#5 Koshburger, 31 Mar 09 02:06

good question ^

#6 therockerman, 25 Apr 09 13:36

i would just apply the rules for R=7 to R=8-10. thats how i would interpret it?

#7 DartRobbery, 19 Jun 09 21:18

or follow trend and extrapolate

#8 tudorman, 31 Jul 09 09:20

You can use the push-fold charts for R>7. Not SAGE. You can try to make a new chart yourselves for 7<R<12 and calculate the values from the push-fold charts.;)

#9 lolofon, 05 Aug 09 19:11

Now i dont know which table is correct... This table says to play loosely on BB, and for example this http://www.cardplayer.com/cardplayer-magazines/65582-19-2/articles/15250-are-you-sage-getting-an-edge-in-heads-up-no-limit-hold-39-em is looser on SB... Am i missing something?

#10 Hahaownedlolz, 02 Dec 09 22:06

couldn't you just use ICM for this?


ICM learns you the same thing.. doesn't it?

#11 kodjakas, 09 Feb 10 12:59

R All-In SB Call from Big Blind
1 17 always
2 21 17,0
3 22 24,0
4 23 26,0
5 24 28,0
6 25 29,0
7 26 30,0
8 27 33,9
9 28 36,2
10 29 38,6

#12 Koshburger, 10 Feb 10 02:26

ok

#13 Philfox1985, 30 Dec 10 13:48

The ICM and SAGE seem to disagree slightly on the additional 'value added' by connectors and/or suited cards.

Should this be allowed for in SAGE calculations?

#14 SPADES1, 03 Feb 11 23:12

I agree with the last remark, in fact in SAGE 'counting method' 2 points are added in case of suited cards whilst no points for connectors (0 or 1 gap). It's a pity i don't know in detail the algorithm of sage.

#15 Salivanth, 15 Mar 11 06:22

Usually, the Nash equilibrium is a better situation for HU endgames nowadays. You can find the charts at: http://www.holdemresources.net/hr/sngs/hune.html

Though the chart has "20+" for many hands, you generally want to start using Nash at around 9-12 BB's. Also, don't use the caller chart unless you're sure your opponent is using Nash as well. Use the pushing chart though, it's great.

#16 jeangab123, 06 Apr 11 02:18

As a mathematics undergraduate, im kind of curious about what motivated this model. Any reference?


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