Tournaments - Deals
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Introduction
In this article
Instead of playing out the tournament, the remaining
players of an MTT final table are able to agree upon dividing the
money amongst themselves. The option for a deal appears as soon as
the final table has been reached, but mostly it's only used when only
two to three players are left.
The fact that the blinds and
antes are relatively high compared to the average chip stack at the
end of a tournament, makes a deal rather attractive. This article
discusses the pros and cons of deal makings in MTTs.
The different possibilites for making a deal
A popular method which has been deemed fair is to divide-up the
prize pool according to the chip counts. The remaining prize money
for the open places is added up, the minimum amount for each player
is subtracted and the rest is proportionally paid out to the players
depending on the amount of their chips.
Three players are still sitting at the final table. The payouts for the remaining open places total up to:
- 1st place: $ 50.000
- 2nd place: $30.000
- 3rd place: $20.000
Total: $100,000
The chip counts
of the players are:
- Player A: 200.000
- Player B: 120.000
- Player C: 80.000
Total: 400,000
In proportion to
the total number of chips in the game they have:
- Player A: 50%
- Player B: 30%
- Player C: 20% of the chips.
As the third place receives a guaranteed
$20,000 prize money share, this is used as the base for the deal as
every player receives this amount in any case. So first of all,
$60,000 will be subtracted (3x$20,000) from the $100,000, divided
amongst the players, and the remaining pool of $40,000 will be split
according to the chip counts. Player A receives 50%, player B 30% and
player C 20% of the money.
The bottom line looks
like this:
- Player A: 40.000$
- Player B: 32.000$
- Player C:28.000$
As seen in the example, the chip count method offers
every party a fair distribution. This is only the case, though, if the
players' stacks are very even. In the example, player C wins more as
a short stack than if he dropped out immediately, and the chip leader
receives less than he would for a regular tourney win.
This changes,
though, as soon as the chip counts of the individual players become
more imbalanced.
An example on the basis of the
PartyPoker payout structure:
$11 ($10 + $1 Fee) Regular
tournament with 500 participants, 3 players remaining
Prize
pool: $5,000
- 1st place receives $1,250 (25%)
- 2nd place receives $700 (14%)
- 3rd place receives $413 (8,26%)
The players have:
- Player A: 80%
- Player B: 10%
- Player C: 10% of the total chips in play.
The remaining prize pool amounts to $2,363. As
the third place finisher receives $413, they're subtracted from the
prize pool. Thus $1,124 remain ($2,363 - $1,239), which will be
divided according to the amount of chips. So player A receives
another $889.20, and players B and C receive $112.40.
The
bottom line looks like this:
- Player A receives 1312,20$
- Player B receives 525,40$
- Player C receives 525,40$
In this example, the chip leader fares better than the two short stacks. While in a normal payout he'd receive 25% of the prize pool, he now receives 26%. This proves that the chip count method, so dividing the prize pool according to the chip counts, is more profitable for the chip leader if the stacks aren't even.
You calculate the value of the chips with the help of
an ICM calculator and divide the remaining money accordingly. These
values are fairer than with a chip count deal. You can visualize what
is fair and try to convince the opponents to go in the direction which is
more profitable for yourself. Because generally, only a few opponents
actually know what would really be fair.
For the previously mentioned
examples it would result into:
Example 1 with 50%, 30%, 20%
stacks (chip count deal in brackets):
- Player A: $38,392, ($40,000)
- Player B: $32,750, ($32,000)
- Player C: $28,857, ($28,000)
Example 2 with 80%, 10%, 10% Stacks (chip
count deal in brackets):
- Player A: $1,133, ($1,312)
- Player B: $614, ($525)
- Player C: $614, ($525)
You can clearly see that the big stack gets worse off, the middle stack better off and the short stack clearly better off than with the chip count deal.
Another method, the post deal method, entails evenly
dividing the prize pool amongst the remaining players and to continue
playing for the rest. This method is often used with evenly big chip
stacks, as everybody receives the same share of the prize pool and
the rest will be played off. The players are left to take care of who
will receive the money – only the winner, or the remaining places
will be paid extra.
Prize pool: $5,000
- 1st place receives $1,250 (25%)
- 2nd place receives $700 (14%)
- 3rd place receives $413 (8.26%)
The remaining prize pool amounts to $2,363. The
players opt for the post deal method and divide the pool into three
equal amounts with a portion remaining. Thus everybody receives $700 and the
remaining $263 ($2,363 - $2,100) is attributed to the winner.
The
bottom line looks like this:
- 1st place receives $963
- 2nd place receives $700
- 3rd place receives $700
It shows that this method is more profitable for short stacks. The third placed finisher would at this time receive the prize money for the second place. In addition there is still the opportunity to win the $263 for first place. If you were chip leader at this point though, this deal method is not the best as you are worse off than with the chip count method, even if you win.
This method simply combines the post deal and chip
count methods. First of all, every player receives a fixed amount for
his seat, for still being at the table and having some chips, as
with the post deal method. On the other hand, the remaining amount will not be
played off, but divided via chip count deal.
This method was
created because short stacks often didn't want to accept chip count
deals for the reason that not only their chips have a value, but also
the seat they sit on. Because with this they still have the
opportunity to win the tournament. (“All you need is a chip and a
chair.”)
ICM calculations are fairer, but only a few people
understand them, let alone being able to work them out in their head. The shorter your own stack, the more you profit from a big share for the seat. As
a super short stack you should suggest such a deal.
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mouse89, 06 Oct 08 15:07
yeah