Bet sizing - How much do you bet and why?
by shakin65
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Introduction
In this article
- How much should you bet
- What are you trying to accomplish with your bet
- Factors that are influencing your bet
Bet sizing means determining the optimal size of a bet. How much you bet depends on different factors:
- the board
- the pot size
- the chip stacks
- the number of your opponents
- the development of the current hand
- the image
In this article you will learn, how to determine a good and adequate bet size.
A second major aspect of this article deals with the question, which aims you have with your bet. Why do you bet? It will be easier to make the right decision in a particular situation, if you know, what you are doing
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roshe40, 08 Mar 08 11:39
Dan Harrington refers to trying to find out how good your hand is as a "probe bet"#2
styc0, 15 Apr 08 18:36
g#3
nVIDIA69, 31 May 08 16:41
ok#4
Kexkee, 14 Jun 08 11:34
Exactly. If you don't bet on the flop here, you don't know where you are. The two very wrong decisions here are: all-in and no bet. In both cases, if he has a stronger hand (which after all is a possibility), you're lost. If you go all-in, he would call and you're out. If you don't bet, he can answer any way he likes and you don't know nothing about his hand. Probe bet is right.#5
Pok3rMas73r, 16 Jul 08 04:55
In this hand and the previous one hero bets in a more traditional way (3x the bb in this hand and one bb value less in the previous). The tutorials in the site tells to bet 4x. How form is more suitable?#6
Pok3rMas73r, 16 Jul 08 05:02
Sorry, dont know that comments are general. So, in my last postprevious hand: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/sng/761/9/
this hand: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/sng/761/10/
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mouse89, 06 Oct 08 14:23
ok#8
malins7, 04 Dec 08 12:47
i think EVERY online play should read these articals before hitting the tables, i've read them, understood them and have been playing alone those lines for a few years now... it still does'nt stop fools from chasing, hitting the river and dwindling my stack away, gone are the days when new players play tight, learn hand value's and odd's & stick to low stake tables, it's all about making a big profit fast to them ....... is this a theme or am i just unluck enough to find myself on these tables? keep up the good articals, hopefully the news will spread.#9
Vargan, 05 Jan 09 11:23
Taken from 3.3. Evaluating your hand:"If you hit a pair of tens sitting in the big blind with JT, for instance, but there is no queen on the board yet, such a bet is advisable."
And WHY would there be a queen on the board? Why queen. Wierdly written.
But anyway! OK! ^^.
#10
DonteSVK, 15 Jan 09 21:07
Thanks for advices ... going to apply them immediately.This article helped me to clear out things about betting.
I WISH EVERYBODY - Less Calling stations or more Luck :)
- many times strategy does not work when playing bad opponents.
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D. Brunson: "Dont do anything fancy against weak opponents they are not able to appreciate it"
GL
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steIIstuI, 13 Mar 09 20:48
I hope the JJ example will happen to me very often :pI prefer playing against strong opponents than stupid FISHES X(x(
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bear33774, 15 Apr 09 01:06
Hello I need help#13
bear33774, 15 Apr 09 01:15
I'am an American playing for play chips on Fulltilt, I live in the Tampa, Fl area. We are fortuniate to have access to two places That offers Live Play Tournaments for a real cash buy in. We all so have a number of Pubs and or Bars That offer freeplay tournaments for non cash winnings small level is a $50. bar tab or entrance to a larger regional tournament for entrance into a local cash tournament or trips. These of course can lead to big cash pay outs and entrance packages. I have started studying the strategies here and I am having good success getting to the final tables in mtt and mmt sit-n-gos but I am falling short in the late phaze. How do i get access to the next level of strategies. If you knnow where this or a simular strategy is located this would be a great help to my tournament track. Thanks in advance for you help.#14
RacoonCity, 23 May 09 14:26
Pokertsrategy articles are more appropriate for medium and high stakes levels where they are most valuable, but when you play at low levels, it becomes much harder to use the strategies advocated here against weak players not paying attention to the real value of their hands and not taking into consideration crucial factors like position, pot odds and win odds. The stategies could be more effective if you have to deal with one fish at a time, but when you are facing all the times o many reckless players, chances are they will make your play unsuccesseful! The best would be to invest some good money and move up to higher levels where you can make the bestt out of applying these strategies.#15
Ratinha, 09 Jun 09 03:14
Racoon, maybe this is why NLH SSS works better then FL low stakes and the sng strategies work best. at a sng weak play tends to be punished. I rarely finish out of the $ in the $1 sng even losing 40% of my stack in the first hand. But have had a hard time in the .10/.20 FL tables.#16
obi1kenobi1, 08 Oct 09 09:38
Ratinha if you were a good all round player you would be grinding out those $1SNG's very easily#17
somuchmoney11, 01 Nov 09 11:52
can someone tell me how to get my rank upgrade so that i can read next article?#18
jancotianno, 19 Nov 09 23:17
In the J-J trips example, I think it would be a better call to protect more the hand and take the pot right away. There are just too many draw possibilities out there on the board. A Kc-Qc is a quite possible hand for him to have there, in which case he would be getting the right odds to call. Yes, you do want to get value on your strong hands, but you should be careful with all hands that can be less then the pure nuts. In that specific case, I say take the pot down right away, and if you're giving the wrong odds, and the opponent still calls, that's good for you. It would be different if there was only a flush draw on the board, or just the straight possibility.#19
Koshburger, 10 Feb 10 01:48
ok#20
quartz1111, 12 Mar 10 02:08
Does any1 think tht the 20% rake on party poker 1 SNG adversly affects your long term chance of winning money. I tend to be just slowly losing money. With small up and down swings.#21
Arthibald1, 03 May 10 22:16
I think that the first AK hand is definately worth a value bet on the river, about 210 to 270 into the 400 pot.You are only ever getting raised by a flush/trips/full/quads, and so many hands can pay you off, all the A's except AQ, any pocket pair above 4s, all the 9's, etc. The bet/check/bet play looks weak too so I'd definately bet.
Thoughts??
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Arthibald1, 03 May 10 22:18
Oh forgot to say good article and thanks!#23
illeaglez, 25 Sep 10 14:20
just know when to foldand bet are key
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sendmail, 11 Nov 10 09:10
Arthibald1 -I also think that river bet would be nice on AK example. Also , chances are that villian won't call 2/3 potsize bet with his AK.
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madaracis, 24 Nov 10 15:22
Thanks!#26
winmaster76, 29 Jan 11 06:42
The problem with the 2nd to last hand, where hero has AA, assuming the other player doesn't have a Q, is they could easily be a passive player who is just calling with a low queen, even pokerstrategy says that you should only raise the flop with 2 pair or better if not the pre flop agressor, so the other player could have a queen, and a value bet might be missed.#27
SPADES1, 02 Feb 11 14:15
Problem: why shoul I call an all-in bet with set J? Let us sfocus on the turn and suppose MP3 called with AK of clubs (unlikely only limp preflop) or more realistically 89 clubs, 87clubs or KQ clubs. He wantts to protect his non-nuts flush and goes all-in after hero bet. Pot is 630 hero has 1080 left MP3 goes all-in creating a pot of 1950. So hero (putting MP3 on 57 clubs to be tender) neeeds at least 35,64%, he has 10 outs or equivalently the 21,74% (odds chart) to win (simulation puts hero on 22,73%), so he would call out of odds. Of course MP3 might be on a bluff but we should put him on a big bluff 13,90% of the time (quite a lot for such a big bluff with BB 10/20!). With KQ clubs or 89 clubs hero would have been with even less outs sice MP3 would be on an OE straight flush draw!I would be glad to receive an answer.
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worm5, 13 Mar 11 14:05
I don't quite understand. The article tells us that we should make 1/2 pot size bet to evaluate our hand. However in the examples section - 'Evaluating JJ with an A on the flop' it tells us to make a 2/3 pot size bet!So is it 1/2 or 2/3?Seems that the author doesn't know himself :)
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AltTabF4, 08 Jul 11 22:45
Had a hard time to understand"AA - MAXIMIZING VALUE ON THE FLOP AND PROTECTING YOUR HAND"
turn bet at first but then I realised that villain checking all streets would mean he's going for cheap cards (indicating a draw like 98s or Ax of clubs).
Still, if someone could make things clearier for me, I would appreciate it.
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shakin65, 12 Jul 11 13:05
you always have to balance, which is the best line to get maximum value. but never forget to protect your hand, depending on the board structure, betting patterns ...