Short Stack Strategy: draws in a free play situation
by PokerStrategy.com
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Introduction
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In the beginner's section you learned how to play good made hands in a free play situation (i.e. you're in the big blind and you don't need to invest more money to see the flop). Sometimes the only thing you have hit is a draw, but this is still no reason to muck your hand. This article deals with how to play draws in a free play situation.
Before you continue reading, it's essential that you first go through the articles about outs & odds and implied pot odds. The following content makes no sense without understanding the mathematical background of playing a draw.
Short Stack Strategy - Odds and Outs
Short Stack Strategy - Implied odds
 Video: Draws in the Freeplay |
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gparce, 30 Jul 08 17:37
i don`t understand how you have four outs against a possible A3, `wouldn`t you have three outs....only the three tens help you#2
jmackenzie, 13 Aug 08 21:02
i assume in that hand theyre using the possible backdoor flush and straight draws to add up as an extra out.#3
PokerLucas, 24 Aug 08 17:42
gparce, you won´t have 4 outs against A3 if you have AT. That´s why the topic is called "discounted outs".#4
TheBrood, 26 Aug 08 04:48
gparce: correct, you would have around 3 outs IF he has A3. But you dont know that so its 3-4 outs.#5
mouse89, 05 Oct 08 15:01
ok#6
yzystyle, 29 Nov 08 20:20
mouse- u and ur ok's :)#7
SadisticNature, 02 Jan 09 19:15
I think one overestimates the value of isolating in this article. The reason to play monster draws like made hands is partly fold equity and partly maximizing your value because people will call vs your monster draw with hands that wouldn't call after you hit. When you hit your draw you rate to win so isolating is weak as it decreases the chance of getting paid off. But isolating when you rate to make a near nut hand when you hit is mathematically the wrong play.#8
theboydave, 20 Jul 09 16:25
Interesting read i agree to play monster draw aggressive as gives more ways to win.#9
darkrum18, 08 Nov 09 02:59
I didn't really like this article, I found it was too basic after the two before it pretty much explained everything this just said in greater detail. Just my opinion, not helpful. Id recomend mastering the last two tho!#10
luismg88, 07 Sep 10 00:18
help here please!... What I really don't understand is why in the "After the flop" article says you shouldn´t continue to play an OESD if you didn´t raise pre-flop (i.e. when you´re the BB); and in this "Free-play draws" article they tell you it´s a Strong Draw and you can check/call the flop, or even invest all your chips if there are 2 more players... what´s up with that????#11
David, 07 Sep 10 07:31
@10: hi luismg88, our basic articles are directed to absolute beginners. We can not generalise how to play a draw on the flop, it depends how many opponents we are facing on the flop, our odds and outs, our relative position to the opponents, their stack sizes etc.Have you already discovered our hand evaluation forums? Please have a look: http://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/board.php?boardid=1527
and post your questionable hands :)
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luismg88, 08 Sep 10 00:37
thanks David.. so for example, playing SSS in a .02/.05 table, if I'm holding 67o on the BB, and I check after the SB calls (just the two of us in the hand, and supposing I have $1.70 and he has me covered), the board comes 8Q5 rainbow and he throws a pot-sized raise... the pot is giving me a 2-to-1, but my hand is 5:11.- is it profitable to call considering implied odds and chase the OESD? or should I fold when playing SSS?
2.- how about if he bets .05?
3.- and what if we have the same scenario but with another player that limped preflop and he would be yet to act after me? can I shove here? cause as this article suggests: "By contrast, you can invest all your chips if there are two more players willing to play the pot. You pay 1/3 of the pot money and receive a return of 1/3 of the pot or more (9 or more outs)." I don´t get this, cause I´m second to act since I´m on the BB position, so even if there´s another player, I´m not really getting 3-to-1 odds yet...
thanks for the advice
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David, 08 Sep 10 07:21
@12: Hi luismg88, please use our short stack strategy forums and hand evaluation forums located here:http://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/board.php?boardid=1540
http://www.pokerstrategy.com/forum/board.php?boardid=1436
One of our hand judges will help you regarding this specific hand.
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PERFICK, 18 Jan 11 12:21
I've lost the pLot, what is free play.I read the basics which the chart says just bet fold or all in.. whats the context for these next articles
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PERFICK, 18 Jan 11 13:19
sorry- found it, a call on the blind and hit a draw#16
riskcore, 27 Jul 11 09:36
in the first example, under the heading combo pairs, why does JTo have more outs that JTs, me confused#17
Berliner1982, 29 Jul 11 07:05
@#16The flop in the example with JTo is different then with JTs (an 8 instead of an 6) - that why with JTo you have a gutshot (+3 outs).
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AKM247, 21 Aug 11 06:30
"Exception: if you are last to act in the betting round (there is no one who can bet after you) and you get good pot odds. When you have a gutshot, it is advisable to call with pot odds of 1:6, even though you would need 1:10 for the possible winnings to be big enough on the following streets."Why?