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Strategy: No-Limit Short & Mid Stack Strategy

The 8 Player Types: How to Get Their Money

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Introduction

In this article
  • How the types of opponents differ
  • The 8 types of players
  • How to beat them

When you are playing in the lower limits, you don't need to worry about getting very specific reads on your individual opponents at the table, since you will probably never see them again. The important thing is knowing what type of player your opponent is and how to adjust your game to counter his playing style.

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Comments (21)

#1 xponentx, 08 Jul 09 22:12

Good article, been hoping for something like this for a while.

#2 Reptile16, 12 Jul 09 18:54

The print function doesn't work. Good article though.

#3 trucmuche04, 04 Aug 09 03:13

I like the article but it's very condescending towards weaker players. Don't we all-start as one of these types? I wouldn't say they're "idiots" or "stupid" but rather that they're inexperienced, uneducated towards poker or lack discipline.

I prefer to see poker as any other competitive sport where your opponents are simply either stronger or weaker than you are. Have some good sportsmanship!

#4 PornStar444, 08 Aug 09 13:02

I must say I agree with trucmuche04 to a certain extent, but at the same time I have to say I also find that sometimes you have to call it what it is.

I play on Piggs Peak Poker (based in Swaziland), and the way some of the players in the low limits play is just amazing.

Aside from the odd monster hand with people calling my all-ins, I make the most money out of these "inexperienced" players. Often times I find myself sitting there thinking: "What on earth were thinking, you moron?"

Great set of articles though. Thanks to the writers for all the effort.

#5 cimbonda, 19 Aug 09 01:00

the donkey has a nice picture!:)))

#6 orennz, 16 Sep 09 01:31

I have been accuseed many times of playing "donkey" poker because I raise on the blinds with reasonably weak hands (eg.6,9os) only to hit a made hand on the flop (trips,full house etc). I raised for a few reasons:
1. Everybody limped in.
2. Pot odds were good.
3. I was a big stack.
4. Wanted to see where the big hands were
5. Setting up for possible bluff.
6. Play was discounted
After hitting the monster and betting out large no one believes and keep calling and raising bets with AK and other huge preflop hands. When they see the result they are outraged that someone would raise preflop on such weak cards and the chat comments begin to get very nasty. Often that player will be out in the next few hands due to tilt enduced actions even though I watched them play a very good game before hand.
I guess what I am trying to say is that putting players into catogories like this because they make off text book moves is stupid. I make alot of moves like this when I feel the sitation is right and are amazed at the previously TAG players who just wont stop calling your bets based on the board cards and are outraged when beat that you would play such hands. I am just a newbee player myself having only played poker for just under a year but these so called TAG players are often turned into calling stations and easily beat purely because they ego trip into believing text book poker (eg. raising only on strong starting hands) is how everyone has to play otherwise the are a donkey. I have tried to develop my own style and not stick to the norms of what is "correct" play and have been reasonably successful in growing and maintaining my bankroll at PS. Remember that poker is not just about good starting hands luck is also a huge factor so when you TAGs suckout because you kept calling on A high you have to really think about who is the real donk.

#7 dic267, 19 Sep 09 12:18

I would have to agree with orennz tho i would argue that a true TAG player would know that if his/hers A K suited missed the flop he/she should get out the way unless the situation is right for a bluff. Players that play a TAG game and then become a calling station in the above situation i would say, although on their way to becoming a true TAG player, they are still developing their game and are not quite true TAG players yet. Also i would have to disagree with luck being a huge factor. In some cases this true but luck is only as big a factor as the players at the table allow it to become. Remember you are always in control of how you play your hands and can always do something different to prevent donkey plays from becoming lucky. I dont suggest you can prevent them from winning the hand, but you can control how much of your stack they win. Unless of course you hit a monster on the flop just for them to hit a bigger monster by the river. In that situation it is important to remember that it is profitable to pay off fish every now and then. For if the fish always lost they wouldn't come back.

#8 larsra, 15 Nov 09 12:42

Great read, thx :)

#9 tankfly, 04 Dec 09 16:35

useful article, cheers

#10 1z2x3y, 04 Feb 10 14:32

Posted by ORENNZ above - (poker is not just about good starting hands luck is also a huge factor)
This is a huge misconception due to the fact of in the long term play and making only profitable calls (whether on a draw or a made hand etc) luck has a exact recurring factor that is mathmatically correct & proven and is 7.4%.
So i suggest to all new players, go on your experiences and what is proven.
Because only you know your experiences and the other has been tested over time I.E. proven

#11 Jaime001254, 05 Feb 10 05:53

lol at LUCK as a factor...


@ orenzz:

well, your play is called "metagame", but technically raising 69o to a bunch of limpers is -EV, even if you hit a monster hand...
you will be behind a lot of times, you wont get paid often with your full house, and you will lose lots of money with 2 pair vs sets for example (limped/called PF).
if a "tag" player tilts after one hand, then its rather a rock or a weak tight player

#12 popadixon, 20 Feb 10 22:23

omg... i started learning poker here and in one week i felt like my poker game got better... until i found this article and found myself in one of the "lower" types :)...

probably the best article so far... keep it up

#13 farbwenz, 15 Mar 10 02:00

nice articel, but I had a hard time finding it. why is it under SSS and not under psychology? should be important for all types of game

#14 rammem, 04 Jun 10 10:21

Good article.

#15 inczezoltan, 04 Jun 10 21:39

It's the best article I've read! Congratulations for the author. It has some very funny ang intresting thoughts like: "he has five aces (or better) and a guarantee signed by God that he will win the hand." and "If there aren't any fish at the table, try your luck in other waters. " I really enjoyed reading it and I found out a big mistake that I was usually making.

#16 Caja71, 05 Jul 10 13:09

nice...:)

#17 poketnines, 25 Oct 10 10:11

´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´Aggressive
´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´^
´´´´rock/nit(pre)´´´´´´´´´´´´|´´´´´´´´´´´´´´Maniac/Donkey
´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´TAG´´´´´´´´´|´´´´´´´´LAG
´´´´´´´´weak-tight´´´´´´´´´´´|
Tight<------------------------------------------->Loose
´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´|
´´´´´´´´nit(post)´´´´´´´´´´´´|´´´´´´Calling station/Donkey
´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´|
´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´v
´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´´Passive

#18 TomBoleh, 18 Feb 11 10:59

Great article; I've been called a donkey many times before. And it feels great to take a hand like that; But I have to agree that my bankroll is doing better since I changed from total donkey to somewhat TAG. Sure you can add some added inteligence to the game to outsmart the others but my experience so far is that if you just stick to the SSS system on the mirco limits it pays off. Just don't stick to it too strict because it makes you too easy to read.

#19 tchan28, 24 Apr 11 06:53

@Orennz : Keep in mind that this is a bronze level article so I don't think the author would discuss the advantages of position yet.

#20 CRI4BRA, 30 Apr 11 19:35

poker will evolve though

the most common bad player will not be the donk but the nit.

be happy with what you have now and dont call them donks because they will start looking for improvement , as few past donks arrived at this website and admit they were the donks

#21 soapy27, 09 Aug 11 04:30

brilliant article very useful.


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Article Contents

    • Introduction
    • How the types of opponents differ
    • Rocks
    • Nits
    • Weak Tight Players
    • TAGs
    • Maniacs
    • LAGs
    • Calling stations
    • Donkeys
    • Conclusion

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