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Villain: VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS=67/22/2/46 auf 18 Hände, allerdings hat er 5 von 6 Showdowns gewonnen, also gute Hände gehabt. Geraist hat er preflop mit KJo und K6s. Preflop passiv gespielt hat er Hände wie J8o oder K7o. Ein VPIP/PFR von 50/20 scheint mir durchaus realistisch.

HU cappt er Top Pair mit schlechtem Kicker am Flop auf trockenen Boards. Er donkt HU auch schon mal mit nichts. Trips spielt er aber auf einem drawheavy Board slow und donkt die am River.

$0.25/$0.5 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BU with 8:s, 8:c.
MP3 folds, CO raises, Hero 3-Bets, 2 folds, CO calls.

Flop: (7.4 SB) 2:h, 5:s, 4:d (2 players)
CO checks, Hero bets, CO raises, Hero ?

Bietet sich der Spot für eine 3-Bet an?
Was mache ich, wenn ich gecappt werde und am Turn eine 3 oder 6 kommt?

Noch was zum Thema Pocket Pair vs. check-raise Flop:

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Villain: VPIP/PFR/AF/WTS=50/22/4/44, also eher aggressiv, aber preflop so ähnlich wie der Gegner oben.

$0.25/$0.5 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BU with Q:c, Q:d.
2 folds, Hero raises, SB 3-Bets, BB folds, Hero caps, SB calls.

Flop: (9 SB) 4:h, K:d, J:s (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, SB raises, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.5 BB) A:d (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (6.5 BB) 8:c (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: 6.5 BB.

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;Hero$8,80:///////;CO$8,90:27/44/19/1,6/46/17/0/83;[/tg]
0,25/0,5 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
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Preflop: Hero is BB with K:club:, Q:club:
CO raises, 2 folds, Hero 3-bets, CO calls.

Flop: (6,40 SB) 8:spade:, T:diamond:, J:heart: (2 players)
Hero bets, CO calls.

Turn: (4,20 BB) Q:diamond: (2 players)
Hero bets, CO raises, Hero calls.

River: (8,20 BB) T:heart: (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10,20 BB

Known players:
[tg]Position_Stack:hands/vp$ip/RaisePreflop/AF/WTS/ORL/BBvsSteal/W$SD;SB$10,05:41/46/12/1,5/42/29/-/60;Hero$9,50:///////;CO$7,40:21/76/0/2,0/17/0/0/67;[/tg]
0,25/0,5 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9:club:, A:club:
CO calls, BU folds, SB calls, Hero raises, CO calls, SB calls.

Flop: (6,00 SB) A:diamond:, 9:diamond:, Q:spade: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (4,50 BB) 5:diamond: (3 players)
SB bets, Hero raises, CO calls, SB calls.

River: (10,50 BB) 2:spade: (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO folds, SB calls.

Final Pot: 12,50 BB

Gegner: (vpip/pfr/wts/af) 93/0/41/0.3 auf 123 Hände
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$0.5/$1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A:s, 9:s.
4 folds, Hero raises, BB calls.

Flop: (4 SB) 8:s, 9:c, 7:h (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (3 BB) 2:c (2 players)
Hero bets, BB calls.

River: (5 BB) 6:c (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks.

Final Pot: 5 BB.

Riverplay?

Riverplay again. Gegner: 83/31/47/1.1 auf 1.8k hände

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$0.5/$1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5:d, 9:d.
MP3 calls, 3 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (2.5 SB) 7:d, K:h, 5:s (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

Turn: (2.25 BB) K:d (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

River: (4.25 BB) 6:s (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks.

Final Pot: 4.25 BB.

Full Tilt Poker Game #14928645035: Table Cascade Valley - $0.02/$0.05 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:29:18 ET - 2009/09/25
Seat 1: nicographik ($2.22)
Seat 2: fighter06 ($4.50)
Seat 3: Prostilein ($4.61)
Seat 4: Mefistoff ($1.48)
Seat 5: MishanF72 ($1)
Seat 6: Honkey CJ ($8.33)
Seat 7: fati6 ($5)
Seat 8: Rackir ($5.58)
Seat 9: Cyberhwk ($6.69)
fati6 posts the small blind of $0.02
Rackir posts the big blind of $0.05
The button is in seat #6
HOLE CARDS
Dealt to fighter06 [Td Tc]
Cyberhwk folds
nicographik folds
fighter06 raises to $0.20
Prostilein folds
Mefistoff folds
MishanF72 folds
Honkey CJ folds
fati6 raises to $0.60
Rackir folds
fighter06 has 15 seconds left to act
fighter06 calls $0.40
FLOP [5d Ts Kc]
fati6 bets $0.05
fighter06 raises to $0.20
fati6 has 15 seconds left to act
fati6 calls $0.15
TURN [5d Ts Kc] [9c]
fati6 checks
fighter06 has 15 seconds left to act
fighter06 bets $0.95
fati6 has 15 seconds left to act
fati6 raises to $2.50
fighter06 raises to $3.70, and is all in
fati6 calls $1.20
fighter06 shows [Td Tc]
fati6 shows [Kh Ks]
RIVER [5d Ts Kc 9c] [Ad]
fighter06 shows three of a kind, Tens
fati6 shows three of a kind, Kings
fati6 wins the pot ($8.45) with three of a kind, Kings
fighter06 adds $1
SUMMARY
Total pot $9.05 | Rake $0.60
Board: [5d Ts Kc 9c Ad]
Seat 1: nicographik didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: fighter06 showed [Td Tc] and lost with three of a kind, Tens
Seat 3: Prostilein didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Mefistoff didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: MishanF72 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: Honkey CJ (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: fati6 (small blind) showed [Kh Ks] and won ($8.45) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 8: Rackir (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 9: Cyberhwk didn't bet (folded)

Original von Freako08
$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG Cyberhwk ($6.69)
UTG+1 nicographik ($2.22)
MP1 Hero ($4.50)
MP2 Prostilein ($4.61)
MP3 Mefistoff ($1.48)
CO MishanF72 ($1)
BTN Honkey CJ ($8.33)
SB fati6 ($5)
BB Rackir ($5.58)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 9 players) Hero is MP1 10:diamond: 10:club:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 4 folds, fati6 raises to $0.60, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40

Flop: 5:diamond: 10:spade: K:club: ($1.25, 2 players)
fati6 bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, fati6 calls $0.15

Turn: 9:club: ($1.65, 2 players)
fati6 checks, Hero bets $0.95, fati6 raises to $2.50, Hero goes all-in $3.70, fati6 calls $1.20

River: A:diamond: ($9.05, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $9.05
Hero shows
10:diamond: 10:club:
fati6 shows
K:heart: K:spade:

fati6 wins $8.45 ( won +$3.95 )

Hero lost -$4.50

FYP und dann auch noch ne NO Limit hand....

Original von Funkmaster
Riverplay again. Gegner: 83/31/47/1.1 auf 1.8k hände

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$0.5/$1 Fixed-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 5:d, 9:d.
MP3 calls, 3 folds, Hero checks.

Flop: (2.5 SB) 7:d, K:h, 5:s (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

Turn: (2.25 BB) K:d (2 players)
Hero bets, MP3 calls.

River: (4.25 BB) 6:s (2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks.

Final Pot: 4.25 BB.

Flop und Turnplay sind hier erstmal gut. River ist close, die 6 ist eine unschöne karte und ich sehe wenig schlechtere hände hier noch callen, eine Ax wird er auf die karte oft folden. ich spiele hier vermutlich erstmal cc, gegner ist recht unreasonable, ich kann hier schwer sagen, was er am turn nochmal callt. es könnte jede art madehand oder draw sein, bei solchen leuten glaube ich aber auch, dass sie sowas wie QT JT etc am turn callen werden, oft auch Ahigh. da ich keine wirklich schlechteren hände callen sehe am river checke ich und werde ohne weitere reads hier erstmal ne bet callen, er könnte bluffen. ein weiterer vorteil von check ist natürlich auch, dass er hier bessere hände behind checken könnte.

Original von schnup07

Original von Freako08
$0.02/$0.05 No Limit Holdem
9 Players
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Stacks:
UTG Cyberhwk ($6.69)
UTG+1 nicographik ($2.22)
MP1 Hero ($4.50)
MP2 Prostilein ($4.61)
MP3 Mefistoff ($1.48)
CO MishanF72 ($1)
BTN Honkey CJ ($8.33)
SB fati6 ($5)
BB Rackir ($5.58)

Pre-Flop: ($0.07, 9 players) Hero is MP1 10:diamond: 10:club:
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 4 folds, fati6 raises to $0.60, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.40

Flop: 5:diamond: 10:spade: K:club: ($1.25, 2 players)
fati6 bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, fati6 calls $0.15

Turn: 9:club: ($1.65, 2 players)
fati6 checks, Hero bets $0.95, fati6 raises to $2.50, Hero goes all-in $3.70, fati6 calls $1.20

River: A:diamond: ($9.05, 2 players, 1 all-in)

Final Pot: $9.05
Hero shows
10:diamond: 10:club:
fati6 shows
K:heart: K:spade:

fati6 wins $8.45 ( won +$3.95 )

Hero lost -$4.50

FYP und dann auch noch ne NO Limit hand....

Flop würde ich größer raisen um hier möglichst gegen AK und AA allin zu kommen und hände wie AQ AJ von denen du am turn nur value bekommst, wenn sie hitten entweder mehr geld abzunehmen oder sie zum folden zu bewegen.
alternativ gegen spieler, die viel am turn betten call Flop r/AI Turn