{"id":45132,"date":"2012-02-21T14:00:00","date_gmt":"2012-02-21T14:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/why-do-most-tv-movie-poker-scenes-suck\/"},"modified":"2026-02-22T16:40:10","modified_gmt":"2026-02-22T16:40:10","slug":"why-do-most-tv-movie-poker-scenes-suck","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/news\/world-of-poker\/Why-Do-Most-TV-Movie-Poker-Scenes-Suck_56838\/","title":{"rendered":"Why Do Most TV &#038; Movie Poker Scenes Suck?"},"content":{"rendered":"<?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><p>This month two new poker movies were announced as about to hit our screens, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/news\/world-of-poker\/56796\/\">All In: The Poker Movie<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/news\/world-of-poker\/56666\/\">The King's Men<\/a>. Elsewhere on the small screen, the popular new HBO drama Luck featured some poker scenes in their pilot episode. <\/p><p>With the exception of Rounders, it is rare that poker is portrayed in fiction in a way in which serious poker players find enjoyable. Why is it that since both Rounders and the poker boom, we are yet to see that second great poker movie, or a good poker based TV drama?<\/p><h2>Comedy<\/h2><p>Most long running sitcoms have a poker episode, which usually ends  either with one of the characters getting in too deep after initially going on a  hot streak, or it turning into an impromptu game of strip poker. If they  are not putting the characters into extreme situations, they use poker  as a setting with which to showcase some of the funnier traits of the  lead characters.<\/p><p>In fairness, of all the genres that try their hand at poker, comedy usually gets the best response from poker fans. Not because they depict it any more realistically than any other medium, simply because they give us something to laugh about. My favourite example being this foul-mouthed example from Curb Your Enthusiasm:<\/p><p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/4E_7q4hzWFc\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"426\" width=\"585\"><\/iframe><\/p><h2>The big screen<\/h2><p>Poker in the movies tends to take a decidedly darker and sexier tone. Usually it is played either in the company of cowboys, gangsters, or in high roller casino settings. More often than not, there is a under current of danger attached to the game, either because more than money is on the line in one way or another, or an element of cheating is involved.<\/p><p>All of which you can see in this very cool, stylish, but completely unrealistic, scene from Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels:<\/p><p>&nbsp;<iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/LLGWuWt8wfY\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"426\" width=\"585\"><\/iframe><\/p><h2>The poker movie<\/h2><p>Then there is the rare genre of the fictional movie about poker. The aforementioned Rounders, Lucky You, and comedy the Grand being recent examples. These are the movies that poker fans should like the most, but other than Rounders, tend to leave us disappointed. <\/p><p>The sitcoms and action movies have a duty to exaggerate the game of poker. Make it appear more dangerous, or hilarious, than it actually is. The primary goal of them is to entertain, not to inform, so although the poker scenes are often laughable, most of us do not expect anything different. <\/p><p>The poker genre movies have a much harder job. They have to appeal to both casual movie audiences, and hardcore poker fans. The problem here is that to really entertain a poker fan, you have to go deep into the nuances of the game, which is precisely what will stop the casual movie fans from liking it. <\/p><p>The Grand is a comedy movie that did seem to capture the post-boom poker world with some accuracy (For a comedy), but it wasn't particularly popular with the mainstream viewers or, surpisingly, the poker community. <\/p><p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/2T6I7q9lE0w\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"327\" width=\"585\"><\/iframe><\/p><p>Regular audiences do not want to be confused; they like to be able to join the dots up easily. An in-joke about durrrr or excellent display of positional poker is not going to endear them to a film. A man losing all his money (or clothes) on a bluff, quad aces beating quad kings, or someone hiding cards up their sleeves - that is something anyone can understand to get the plot moving. <\/p><p>The poker community does not make up anywhere near a big enough demographic to justify a serious movie or drama series about poker. The priority will always be on entertaining the core audience first and foremost, and we are lucky if poker gets a respectable homage when it does. <\/p><h2>Poker documentaries<\/h2><p>Even the poker documentaries struggle to capture the imagination of both mainstream audiences and serious poker fans. Two of them are scheduled for launch this year; All In and Boom. Both of them were originally completed just before Black Friday, which is terrible timing for a poker documentary. <\/p><p>In the case of Boom, they went back to scratch and retold the story to include the aftermath of Black Friday. All In, on the other hand, elected to make their film based on how poker was before Black Friday - including interviews with Howard Lederer and Chris Ferguson. <\/p><p>I cannot see that being popular at all, as if one thing is abundantly clear from complaints about poker films, is that serious poker players want accurate and up to date information. To have a documentary about the game we love that not only omits the most significant thing to happen to it in a decade, and also to (potentially) parade two of the game's biggest villains like they are still respected players, is surely going to be universally hated by poker audiences. <\/p><p>Boom, on the other hand, looks like it could be quite good.<\/p><p><iframe src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/4noS7EmKqNM\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"327\" width=\"585\"><\/iframe><\/p><h2>Accuracy vs entertainment<\/h2><p>The big complaint most poker players have with any medium which attempts to recreate poker in fiction is usually around accuracy. This could be completely unrealistic hands, like the final hand of Casino Royale, ignoring of the rules like string bets and not adhering to table stakes rules, or simply not understanding when certain hands are snap-calls\/folds because of pot odds\/stack sizes involved. <\/p><p>It is here where the complaints of a poker fan will largely fall on deaf ears, and frankly, we all tend to sound like nerds when we do. <\/p><p>When we see poker on TV drama, sitcoms, or movies, the experience is the same as when a police officer watches the Lethal Weapon series. They too are laughing at how horribly inaccurate these depictions of their careers are. <\/p><p>When we watch a Cop movie, we want to see cars exploding, maverick officers breaking the rules, and the bad guy dying in spectacular circumstances. The last thing we want to see is police officers filling out pages upon pages of paperwork and having to follow the rules. <\/p><p>Poker is no different. Nobody wants to see card rooms full of young guys discussing Hold'em Manager at the tables or tweeting their chip counts. They want to see crazy hands, big money, people gambling what they cannot afford to lose, gangsters cheating, and cowboys pulling out pistols to get their money back. <\/p><p>Poker on the big and small screen is always going to suck to most of us, because we are too closely involved to be able to take a step back and appreciate it for what it is - a quick laugh, a dramatic plot twist, a cool scene, or the reason to start a fight sequence. As long as within that poker players do not get depicted as drug addicts or wife beaters, I think we probably have to keep tight lipped and let them get on with it. <\/p><p><em><span style=\"color: #888888;\">by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/forum\/thread.php?threadid=156464\">Barry Carter <\/a><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Poker is regularly shown on the big and small screen, so Barry Carter asks why is it that there hasn't been a particularly popular depiction of the game in fiction since Rounders? <\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":129,"featured_media":45133,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[216],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-45132","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-world-of-poker"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Why Do Most TV &amp; Movie Poker Scenes Suck? 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