	{"id":32588,"date":"2024-01-30T08:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-01-30T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/es\/cuando-es-correcto-shovear-en-el-flop\/"},"modified":"2026-02-27T11:08:21","modified_gmt":"2026-02-27T11:08:21","slug":"cuando-es-correcto-shovear-en-el-flop","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/es\/news\/content\/Cu%C3%A1ndo-es-correcto-shovear-en-el-flop_130079\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00bfCu\u00e1ndo es correcto shovear en el flop?"},"content":{"rendered":"<?xml encoding=\"utf-8\" ?><figure class=\"modulRight\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2024\/01\/29\/Screenshot_2024-01-29_152626.png\" alt=\"poker\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\"><figcaption>&iquest;Cu&aacute;ndo es correcto \"shovear\" en el flop?<\/figcaption><\/figure><p><em>En la serie de autoestudio Barry Carter te muestra c&oacute;mo intent&oacute; resolver un problema de p&oacute;ker y luego consulta a un coach o solver para que le d&eacute; su opini&oacute;n sobre su m&eacute;todo.<\/em><\/p><p>Hace poco jugu&eacute; una mano en la que ten&iacute;a KK en un board de Jack-high y el 'solver' me dijo, sorprendentemente, que hiciera shove en el flop por 3 veces el bote. Me pareci&oacute; un gran desperdicio de una mano como KK, as&iacute; que estaba decidido a aprender por qu&eacute;, y en qu&eacute; situaciones deber&iacute;amos hacer esto.<\/p><p>Una vez m&aacute;s utilizando mi funci&oacute;n favorita del <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/es\/l\/gto-wizard\/download\/\">GTO Wizard<\/a>, los reportes agregados, fue f&aacute;cil identificar los 'spots' en los que hacerlo. Prob&eacute; con diferentes tama&ntilde;os de stack y escenarios, el de abajo es BTN vs SB, 3-bet pot, con 60BB efectivas. Filtr&eacute; las manos en las que hab&iacute;a mucho shove en el flop como primera acci&oacute;n, en este caso un shove era 2,5 veces el bote, y estaba claro que eran los tipos de 'boards' adecuados para hacerlo:<\/p><figure class=\"modulFull\"><a href=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2024\/01\/29\/Screenshot_2024-01-29_153233.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2024\/01\/29\/Screenshot_2024-01-29_153233.png\" alt=\"poker\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\"><\/a><figcaption>Clic para agrandar<\/figcaption><\/figure><p>No puedes verlos todos, pero <strong>siempre eran 'boards' con un proyecto de color y dos cartas conectadas entre una Q y un 9<\/strong>. 'Spot' donde era posible para muchas manos broadway hacer una escalera y\/o un color en el turn. Rara vez se ve esto en 'boards' bajos conectados con un proyecto de color.<\/p><p>Para profundizar un poco m&aacute;s, veamos el board J&diams;T&hearts;6&hearts; donde m&aacute;s ocurre, el 24,2% de las veces. Este es el rango de apuestas de la SB, con las manos rojas m&aacute;s oscuras representando los shoves:<\/p><figure class=\"modulFull\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2024\/01\/29\/Screenshot_2024-01-29_153659.png\" alt=\"poker\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\"><figcaption>Verde = check, Rojo = Bet<\/figcaption><\/figure><p>Las manos realmente fuertes, como los sets, prefieren darse check. <strong>Siempre son manos fuertes pero vulnerables, como KK, QQ y AJ las que shovean.<\/strong> Son manos que podr&iacute;an reducir r&aacute;pidamente su valor si llega un tercer coraz&oacute;n o una carta conectada, por no hablar de un As. Y lo que es m&aacute;s importante, si tu mano mejora, puede que el otro jugador consiga una escalera. No te va a gustar la vida con KK si el turn trae el K&hearts;.<\/p><p>Esto es lo que llamamos <a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/news\/content\/121203\/\">un board din&aacute;mico en el p&oacute;ker<\/a>, similar a un 'board' mojado, donde muchas cartas del turn pueden cambiar la suerte de los jugadores. Para tener una idea m&aacute;s clara, esto es lo que hace BTN cuando SB shovea:<\/p><figure class=\"modulFull\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2024\/01\/29\/Screenshot_2024-01-29_154253.png\" alt=\"poker\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\"><figcaption>Verde = Call, Azul = Fold<\/figcaption><\/figure><p>En primer lugar, muchas manos que no ganan a top pair top kicker hacen call, lo que es bueno para nuestro valor. Esto se debe a que ten&iacute;amos la mezcla adecuada de faroles y valor en el rango de shove (Los faroles son proyectos de escaleras altas con proyectos de color, manos como K&hearts;Q&hearts; y A&hearts;Q&hearts;). En segundo lugar, tenemos un mont&oacute;n de manos a las que odiar&iacute;amos darles una carta gratis para que luego foldeen. Se trata principalmente de escaleras d&eacute;biles como AQ, KQ, Q9, Q8, 98, 97 y 87.<\/p><p>Tambi&eacute;n utilic&eacute; la funci&oacute;n de bloqueo de nodos de GTO Wizard para ver qu&eacute; ocurre cuando forzamos a la SB a no hacer shove y, en su lugar, utilizamos apuestas m&aacute;s peque&ntilde;as. Esto es lo que ocurre, por ejemplo, cuando la SB apuesta el 33% del bote:<\/p><figure class=\"modulFull\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/cdn-origin.pokerstrategy.com\/2024\/01\/29\/Screenshot_2024-01-29_155418.png\" alt=\"poker\" width=\"1200\" height=\"800\"><figcaption>Verde = Call, Azul = Fold, Rojo = Raise<\/figcaption><\/figure><p>BTN contin&uacute;a con m&aacute;s manos y puede subir muchas de ellas. Suben todas las manos de buen valor y van de farol con las manos de tipo 'gutshot' que hicimos fold previamente. Nos ponen en una posici&oacute;n m&aacute;s inc&oacute;moda y dejamos entrar manos que tienen equity contra nosotros. De media, la SB hace 11.33BB en el \"Mundo GTO\", pero en este ejemplo de bloqueo de nodos, s&oacute;lo hacen 11.06BB. Pueda que no parezca mucho, <strong>pero no hacer \"shovear\" es un error de 27 BB\/100 a largo plazo.<\/strong><\/p><p>Una forma pr&aacute;ctica de resumir la situaci&oacute;n es que en los flops de broadway conectados con un proyecto de color, <strong>el agresor preflop suele estar por delante, pero el defensor liga mucho en el 'board'<\/strong>. Hay muchas cartas malas en el turn para el agresor preflop, incluyendo las que convierten su mano hecha en dos parejas o un set. La forma de obtener valor de las muchas manos de una pareja que igualar&aacute;n la apuesta, al tiempo que se descartan a los proyectos d&eacute;biles que tienen 'equity', es \"shoveando\" en el flop.<\/p><h3>Art&iacute;culos anteriores de autoestudio (en ingl&eacute;s la mayor&iacute;a)<\/h3><ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/news\/content\/117154\/\">Playing against disconnected players<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/news\/content\/118850\/\">Overbetting with Ace King<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/news\/content\/119470\/\">Why do we check back with Range Advantage?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/news\/content\/121359\/\">Why do I turn top pair into a bluff?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/news\/content\/121511\/\">How I use ICMIZER<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/news\/content\/121719\/\">How wide can we go with Antes?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/news\/content\/122375\/\">Why can we bluff missed straight draws more than missed flush draws?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/news\/content\/122535\/\">How to play a strong underpair on a wet board<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/news\/content\/125387\/\">How to play a 15BB stack<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/news\/content\/125511\/\">How often does Villain have an Ace<\/a>?<\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/es\/news\/content\/129523\/\">Por qu&eacute; no check-raisear con el proyecto nuts de color<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/es\/news\/content\/129847\/\">&iquest;Cu&aacute;ndo apostar peque&ntilde;o en el turn?<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/es\/news\/content\/129947\/\">El As cambia las probabilidades de un proyecto de color<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul><p><em>&iquest;C&oacute;mo estudias cuando est&aacute;s lejos de las mesas? D&eacute;janoslo saber en los comentarios:<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Esta semana, Barry Carter examina los flops en los que a veces es correcto hacer shove por dos veces el bote (o m\u00e1s).<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":32589,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"inline_featured_image":false,"_lmt_disableupdate":"","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[15],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32588","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-content"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v28.2 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>\u00bfCu\u00e1ndo es correcto shovear en el flop? - PokerStrategy ES<\/title>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.pokerstrategy.com\/es\/news\/content\/Cu\u00e1ndo-es-correcto-shovear-en-el-flop_130079\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"es_ES\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"\u00bfCu\u00e1ndo es correcto shovear en el flop? 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