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[NL2-NL10] Rush NL10 KK in UTG+1...

    • BigAl123456
      BigAl123456
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.07.2010 Posts: 4,080
      Full Tilt, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, Rush, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      MP1: $4.28 (42.8 bb)
      MP2: $11.52 (115.2 bb)
      MP3: $10.20 (102 bb)-VPIP 13%-PFR 9%-PFAF 1.6-FTFlCB 64%-WTSD 25%-W$SD 60%-Hands 5580
      CO: $20.78 (207.8 bb)
      BTN: $21.01 (210.1 bb)
      SB: $15.40 (154 bb)
      BB: $8.27 (82.7 bb)
      Hero (UTG+1): $30.22 (302.2 bb)
      UTG+2: $10.15 (101.5 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K K
      Hero raises to $0.40, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $0.40, MP2 calls $0.40, MP3 calls $0.40, 4 folds

      Flop: ($1.75) A A A (4 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 bets $3.88 and is all-in, MP2 calls $3.88, MP3 folds, Hero calls $3.88

      Turn: ($13.39) 2 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
      Hero checks, MP2 checks

      River: ($13.39) 2 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
      Hero bets $8, MP2 folds

      Results:
      $13.39 pot ($0.89 rake)
      Final Board: A A A 2 2
      MP1 mucked 6 6 and lost (-$4.28 net)
      MP2 mucked and lost (-$4.28 net)
      Hero showed K K and won $12.50 ($8.22 net)


      MP1 is an Unknown, MP2 is Lose Pasiver under 70 hands and MP3 is TAGy over 5.5k hands.

      I think I played this hand correctly, never Folding on this Board, maybe I could bet the River smaller but I dont really think any Pair is Folding?
  • 5 replies
    • kymupa
      kymupa
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 22,364
      Hello,

      Preflop is fine.

      On the flop, against three opponents, I would just check/fold.
      Ax hits their range pretty well so I would expect us to be behind here.

      As played, I would bet around $1-2 on the river, against PP.

      Best,
      Plamen
    • RasTweet
      RasTweet
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.12.2009 Posts: 4,553
      Hey Kymupa

      Really c/f on the flop? Sure they'll have some Ax from time to time, but almost every other PP is going to pay off on nl10 tbh. Yes people are that bad. I think c/f is a bit weak here tbh.

      Regards

      RasTweet
    • lodinn
      lodinn
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.10.2010 Posts: 1,276
      Originally posted by RasTweet
      Hey Kymupa

      Really c/f on the flop? Sure they'll have some Ax from time to time, but almost every other PP is going to pay off on nl10 tbh. Yes people are that bad. I think c/f is a bit weak here tbh.

      Regards

      RasTweet
      I agree, lots of PPs will do this. Also, Ax checks behind often.
    • kymupa
      kymupa
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 22,364
      I do see your point, but being four-way I think check/folding is the best play.
      Once we get a raiser plus a caller preflop, both MP2 and MP3 could have a lot of Axs in their range, plus hands like AQ/AJ/AT as well so overall I think Ax hits their range quite good.

      Also, we are OOP so we are likely to have a hard time playing on the later streets and basically I doubt we can take more than two streets of value against a full house in this spot.

      Also in this particular situation, we face an overbet shove and a call and in this spot I would get really suspicious.
      If it was a smaller bet - something like $1 I would be more inclined to call here and reevaluate on the later streets.
    • Rihard4a
      Rihard4a
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.09.2010 Posts: 2,064
      Folding is the worst EV in the long run...


      Board: A:diamond: A:spade: A:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      UTG+1  56.68%  54.56%   2.12% { KdKh }
      MP1    14.93%  14.21%   0.72% { 66+, A5s+, K9s+, Q9s+, J9s+, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+ }
      MP2    13.58%  12.93%   0.65% { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
      MP3    14.81%  13.95%   0.87% { 77+, A8s+, K9s+, QTs+, JTs, ATo+, KJo+, QJo }