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[NL20-NL50] NL50 SH: KQ on sb vs bu

    • Diedobal
      Diedobal
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.10.2007 Posts: 558
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy hand converter:

      Known players:
      CO:
      $43.25
      BU:
      $50.45
      SB:
      $53.10
      BB:
      $50.00
      MP2:
      $14.15
      MP3:
      $66.80

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K, Q.
      3 folds, BU raises to $2.00, Hero calls, BB folds.

      Flop: (18.00 SB) 5, 2, 7 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $2.25, Hero calls.

      Turn: (18.00 BB) Q (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $4.50, Hero calls.

      River: (36.00 BB) 3 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $18.00, Hero folds

      BU is same villain as in last hand: 18/16/1.1 ATS: 31%

      Having 2 questions on the hand:

      1. c/r turn any good vs 1.1af? without turning my hand into a bluff?
      2. If (as played) river blanks and he fires a 3rd barrel 60%+ pot, can I call +ev?
  • 5 replies
    • generals007
      generals007
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.09.2007 Posts: 578
      I don't like flop play, I'd either c/r as bluff, donk or fold.

      As played i'd c/r or raise turn. I like raise better here because of flushdraw but c/r is nice too because he'd often second barrel Q.

      If river blanks I don't think you can call +ev either, what would he bet 3 streets that you beat? But I'd lead out again on river myself (lightly) to get some money in on worse hands.
    • csnmf
      csnmf
      Global
      Joined: 22.11.2006 Posts: 444
      If you check raise here it's obviously a bluff it's certainly not for value lol it's not like he will call it with Q high. Usually i just check/fold flop if a 1.1af wants to cbet a bad board like that it's usually because he has something.

      I like generals line of donking river small on blank as a block bet you can still get some value from 88-jj sometimes and doesn't put you in the position of getting owned oop.
    • aciddrop
      aciddrop
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.10.2006 Posts: 1,519
      If he is still the one folding 3bets 70%, I am definitely 3betting preflop here.

      As played, I would just fold the flop.

      And once Mr passive starts to bet all streets, calling doesn't have much value.
    • Kruppe
      Kruppe
      Black
      Joined: 20.02.2008 Posts: 2,145
      i think playing this way is ok.

      flop you could C/F, floating with overcards+backdoor is ok i guess.

      playing turn like this is fine imo. you C/C because you don't want to rep flush by betting out. C/R would be even stronger looking and you would be repping flush, so just betting would be better than C/R. you need a big sample size to consider AF.
      just betting turn is fine too i think, as you get value from FD. river is easy C/F.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I rather like c/r than c/c on the flop, since unless you hit your Q, K or diamond you can´t continue on the turn.
      I would also 3-bet pf.
      Turn call is fine, no need to build bigger pot with marginal hand on that board.
      River fold is also frine- although he likely has flush or nothing, he has there flush too many times to call him down.