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[NL2] Flopped set, runner runner comes

    • rogue34
      rogue34
      Silver
      Joined: 15.02.2010 Posts: 150
      Poker Stars, $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $2.10 (105 bb)
      Hero (BB): $2.37 (118.5 bb)
      UTG: $1.40 (70 bb)
      MP: $3.24 (162 bb)
      CO: $1.54 (77 bb)
      BTN: $2.06 (103 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with :8h: :8s:
      UTG folds, MP raises to $0.05, CO folds, BTN calls $0.05, SB folds, Hero calls $0.03

      Flop: ($0.16) :8c: :7h: :Qs: (3 players)
      Hero checks, MP bets $0.08, BTN calls $0.08, Hero raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.22, BTN folds

      Turn: ($0.84) :4c: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.49, MP calls $0.49

      River: ($1.82) :Ac: (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.39, MP raises to $1.54, Hero folds

      Results:
      $2.60 pot ($0.09 rake)
      Final Board: :8c: :7h: :Qs: :4c: :Ac:
      Hero mucked :8h: :8s: and lost (-$1.23 net)
      MP mucked and won $2.51 ($1.28 net)

      Not sure, how differently to play, maybe just checking river? I don't think he's raising me with any worse hands.

      Thanks for any advice.
  • 9 replies
    • LacsapR
      LacsapR
      Silver
      Joined: 14.07.2011 Posts: 177
      Well I see some worse hands he's raising with: 77, 44, AQ, even AK (fish on NL2 always feel committed to AK) good players wouldn't of course but on NL2 I saw this often...just because of runner runner flush I'd not automaticly fold here. Of course the raise is strong and the fold isn't bad, ut I think it's a little bit too tight here. I'd not love to call here, but I'd call.
    • Trim112
      Trim112
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      Joined: 25.09.2017 Posts: 56
      I would also call here, chance are very little he call you with a backdoor flush draw I would guess maybe AQ or AQ or even JJ,KK,AA.
      and the only straight would be 56 mmmm interesting.
    • sdf256
      sdf256
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      Joined: 21.07.2016 Posts: 136
      I would definitely bet bigger OTT.
      Check/call OTR.
    • la55i
      la55i
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      Joined: 27.01.2013 Posts: 7,911
      You hit a set OTF, my initial plan would be to go for 3 streets and get the max value. I wouldn't be too afraid of runner runner flush here, especially when the guy opened from UTG and that Ac should block many of his flush combos. Some QcXc hands might make sense but there are not many. He could do this with 77,AQ. River raises are super super strong but I think I still wouldn't be able to fold here. But I still wouldn't say that folding is terrible, considering that in these cases villain so often really has the nuts even though it is unlikely for him to have those.
    • nitrol
      nitrol
      Silver
      Joined: 24.07.2010 Posts: 11,958
      I would raise flop bigger. I would make bigger bets on all streets.
      As played I will call the raise vs my smallish bet on river.
    • LemOn36
      LemOn36
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      Joined: 07.02.2009 Posts: 1,955
      You sized flop and turn perfectly for a river shove, now it's time to jam it in my friend!
    • LemOn36
      LemOn36
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      Joined: 07.02.2009 Posts: 1,955
      Do NOT be afraid of the flush when the ace falls and you are against a guy from an early position
      Only flush combos he can have are KcQc, QcJc, QcTc
      He can also have all AQ here, and 77 depending on how he plays

      http://www.pokerstrategy.com
      Board: Qs7h8c4cAc
      Equity Win Tie
      MP2 33.33% 33.33% 0.00% { AA, 77, AQs, KcQc, QcJc, QcTc, AQo }
      MP3 66.67% 66.67% 0.00% { 8h8s }

      -And this is pretty conservative, as the guys mentioned people will call you with surprising things art NL2 all over the place
    • LemOn36
      LemOn36
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      Joined: 07.02.2009 Posts: 1,955
      One of the spots where just following the beginner strategy and not being fancy would help you avoid a really big mistake
    • KatalonacX
      KatalonacX
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      Joined: 22.11.2013 Posts: 99
      OTF check-raise is best,OTT bet bigger, OTR I'll go all-in, Qx will call on this limits,like you play it's call river,imo.