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[NL5] is this hand well played?

    • diabloykiss
      diabloykiss
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.04.2018 Posts: 68
      I really don't know how to play this 3 bet situations. My plan was to check / fold to a river that completes colour or brings A to the table, but definitely calling to that river 6, not leading thou. Is it correct to let villain iniative in turn after his call OTF?

      Need a bit of a plan for this spots.

      PokerStars - $0.05 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      MP: 195.6 BB (VPIP: 27.50, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 10.53, Hands: 643)
      CO: 102.4 BB (VPIP: 27.24, PFR: 23.17, 3Bet Preflop: 10.78, Hands: 253)
      BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 16.73, PFR: 13.17, 3Bet Preflop: 5.05, Hands: 539)
      SB: 100 BB (VPIP: 47.37, PFR: 42.11, 3Bet Preflop: 20.00, Hands: 19)
      Hero (BB): 122 BB
      UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 22.56, 3Bet Preflop: 8.37, Hands: 627)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has J:heart: J:club:

      fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, BTN calls 7 BB

      Flop: (20.4 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond: Q:heart: 4:heart:
      Hero bets 6.6 BB, BTN calls 6.6 BB

      Turn: (33.6 BB, 2 players) 8:diamond:
      Hero checks, BTN bets 21.6 BB, Hero calls 21.6 BB

      River: (76.8 BB, 2 players) 2:spade:
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      Hero shows J:heart: J:club: (Two Pair, Jacks and Fours)
      (Pre 81%, Flop 72%, Turn 77%)
      BTN mucks 8:heart: 9:heart: (Two Pair, Eights and Fours)
      (Pre 19%, Flop 28%, Turn 23%)
      Hero wins 73.6 BB


      thanks!:f_thumbsup:
  • 6 replies
    • la55i
      la55i
      Moderator
      Moderator
      Joined: 27.01.2013 Posts: 8,491
      I wouldn't cbet the flop. Your hand is not worth 3 streets. It is not that vulnerable. You are OOP.

      If you choose to bet the flop, then I might just bet the turn too and then give up. Now another flush draw opens and if villain has some equity, you are giving away free cards. You could now bet small again.
    • greatpk
      greatpk
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.05.2016 Posts: 91
      I would bet around 45-55% of the pot on flop to extract value from flush draws and protect my hand vs Ax type of a hand. On Turn I bet again, but river I check. If you choose this way of how to play the hand you must have good post flop skills.
      If you are not confident about your hand then just check flop and lead turn if checked back to you. And check/call all blank rivers.
    • la55i
      la55i
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      Moderator
      Joined: 27.01.2013 Posts: 8,491
      I'm not sure why we need to have good postflop skills with the other line. Yea probably if we mess up OTF then we need to have better skills to dig ourselves out of the hole :f_biggrin:
      Betting is a valid option too, but imo then we should make it closer to 1/3 rather than over half pot.

      Villain looks quite tight over a decent sample. This is a 3bet pot and some flushdraws are blocked. If we assume villain 4bets AK, then if he has an Ax hand he has 3 outs.
    • sdf256
      sdf256
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.07.2016 Posts: 199
      Exactly like Lassi said, if we wanna cbet, cbet 1/3. That's what I'd do and continue betting OTT with an intention to give up to any action.
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
      Gold
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 7,184
      i don't mind it as played. this spot sucks against a decent player regardless of the line we take (due to being oop) and i feel this is one of the better lines we can take here. our perceived range is not so weak when we cbet and x/c turn, and it's not like villain is folding midpairs or most backdoors to our small cbet.

      of course it's not a 3 streets hand, but the oop player doesn't get to decide that. probably just check/fold the river having a and against Q on the flop, though.
    • MyFloXyBabY
      MyFloXyBabY
      Platinum
      Joined: 15.02.2010 Posts: 3,232
      I like it as played and I wouldn't 2 barrel against a 16-13 on more than 500h (even if I don't now his AF though).
      Turn is already nearly a fold versus that type of guy in fact.