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[NL5] set vs river overbet again and again...

    • RemiRem
      RemiRem
      Silver
      Joined: 27.12.2009 Posts: 73
      PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 191 BB (VPIP: 20.59, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 36)
      SB: 354.8 BB (VPIP: 13.64, PFR: 13.64, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
      BB: 178.8 BB
      UTG: 131 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
      Hero (MP): 211.8 BB
      CO: 104.6 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has 6:club: 6:heart:

      fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, SB raises to 8.8 BB, fold, Hero calls 5.8 BB

      Flop: (18.6 BB, 2 players) A:spade: 6:diamond: 2:spade:
      SB bets 7.6 BB, Hero calls 7.6 BB

      Turn: (33.8 BB, 2 players) 4:diamond:
      SB bets 17.6 BB, Hero calls 17.6 BB

      River: (69 BB, 2 players) 9:club:
      SB bets 320.8 BB and is all-in, Hero?


      again deep. I am so bad or what? this should be easy call right? but i just cant see him doing this with AK AQ here.
  • 7 replies
    • la55i
      la55i
      Moderator
      Moderator
      Joined: 27.01.2013 Posts: 8,490
      Raise OTF. If not OTF, then raise at least OTT.

      Pretty much only AA beats you.

      It is possible that villain overvalues his TPTK and plays like this. He maybe could also 3bet pre with 22 or 44. He can have A2 or A4.

      I just wouldn't put villain on only 3 combos and fold. You need to win about 42% to make the call profitable. If there are only 3 realistic combos that beat you, villain doesn't have to play many AK,22,44,A4,A2 hands like this to make this situation very profitable for you.
    • MyFloXyBabY
      MyFloXyBabY
      Platinum
      Joined: 15.02.2010 Posts: 3,220
      I quite like the flop call but on the turn it's time to raise.
      As played you just can't fold. Can't even tank. You might have a mental problem with playing deep indeed. Maybe it's also why you didn't raise before ?
    • RemiRem
      RemiRem
      Silver
      Joined: 27.12.2009 Posts: 73
      Folded that one, 5 minutes after i was on tilt for folding. And this happened. Call of frustration.


      PokerStars - $0.05 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BTN: 160.6 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
      SB: 199.6 BB (VPIP: 17.78, PFR: 15.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 48)
      Hero (BB): 177 BB
      UTG: 75.2 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
      MP: 188.4 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
      CO: 166.4 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 27.27, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 33)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has A:heart: Q:heart:

      fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9.4 BB, BTN calls 6.4 BB

      Flop: (19.2 BB, 2 players) 3:diamond: 4:spade: 2:heart:
      Hero bets 12 BB, BTN calls 12 BB

      Turn: (43.2 BB, 2 players) 5:diamond:
      Hero bets 20.8 BB, BTN calls 20.8 BB

      River: (84.8 BB, 2 players) 3:heart:
      Hero checks, BTN bets 118.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 118.4 BB
    • MyFloXyBabY
      MyFloXyBabY
      Platinum
      Joined: 15.02.2010 Posts: 3,220
      3bet a bit bigger versus 3x OOP.
      I'm not sure at all how I'd handle this spot, from flop to river I see several possibilities lol.
      Anyway as played river it's close because you are basically calling to split.
    • Sunrise1912
      Sunrise1912
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.11.2009 Posts: 418
      if you plan to fold 66 in this spot just dont call preflop low pocket pairs. This is why you called the 3bet, isnt it ?
    • Tomaloc
      Tomaloc
      Gold
      Joined: 17.01.2011 Posts: 7,183
      h1 is an "easy" call, h2 an "easy" fold (most likely a call in theory but i really don't believe they have a good enough bluff frequency).
      the fact that you don't even raise at any point in h1 due to what can only be explained as fear of running into exactly AA shows that you shouldn't be playing deep, as it does happen that you will be making marginal (and not-so-marginal) decisions for large amounts of money and it will happen that you are wrong sometimes.

      i was also a risk-averse huge nit at some point, i understand. i still don't play deep very often, even though i believe that i also have a good edge in the format (you should make a bunch of small but impactful adjustments)
    • MLima1984
      MLima1984
      Silver
      Joined: 19.05.2015 Posts: 86
      OTF i would reraise for sure, would do it again OTT and would pay his all in otr.

      Im sure villain has top pair