18.5 Hand Evaluation Coaching

    • Fongie
      Fongie
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.12.2006 Posts: 4,978
      Haaaaaaandsssssssssssss!!!



      Im gonna be bold and post a MTT hand here.... hope its OK

      Situation: Ive stolen from SB against this guy about 3 orbits in a row and he folded. Felt he was getting sick of it, and I thought he was planning to raise my obvious cbet (its happened a few times to me in other tourneys and its so obvious). So I decided for this instead.

      Good move or just stupid?

      No Limit Holdem Tournament
      $10+$1
      9 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG MRC0NSISTENT (7125)
      UTG+1 Candmetal (14385)
      MP1 Timo0505 (5815)
      MP2 kris3330 (2265)
      MP3 terrywood3 (2300)
      CO daddyz300 (2090)
      BTN diagonalpupp (2940)
      SB Hero (22580)
      BB H-TClic (12000)

      Blinds: 125/250 Ante 25

      Pre-flop: (600, 9 players) Hero is SB K:club: 2:spade:
      7 folds, Hero raises to 750, H-TClic calls 500

      Flop: 7:heart: T:diamond: 4:club: (1,725, 2 players)
      Hero checks, H-TClic bets 500, Hero raises to 2,000, H-TClic says "55", H-TClic folds

      Final Pot: 2,725

      Hero wins 4,225 ( won +1,475 )
      H-TClic lost -1,250
  • 18 replies
    • ShaQQ
      ShaQQ
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.10.2008 Posts: 162
      Villain 45/7, 137 hands

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

      Known players:
      MP1:
      $19.65
      MP2:
      $5.50
      MP3:
      $25.35
      CO:
      $26.00
      BU(Hero):
      $55.80
      SB:
      $26.85
      BB:
      $81.25

      Preflop: Hero is BU with 6, 6.
      4 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB folds, BB calls $0.75.

      Flop: ($2.10) J, J, 6 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, BB calls $1.25.

      Turn: ($4.60) 7 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $2.75, BB raises to $5.5, Hero raises to $14, BB calls $8.50.

      River: ($32.60) 8 (2 players)
      BB bets $12.50, Hero raises to $39.55(All-In), BB calls $27.05.

      Final Pot: $111.70.

      I posted this in the judging forum but thought it might be an interesting hand to discuss the river.
    • Becks777
      Becks777
      Black
      Joined: 04.03.2006 Posts: 7,737
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($44.40)
      BB ($50)
      UTG ($37.90)
      UTG+1 ($54.20)
      Hero ($70.60)
      BTN ($50)

      Dealt to Hero 6:heart: 7:heart:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to $2, BTN raises to $6, fold, fold, Hero raises to $16, BTN calls $10,

      FLOP ($32.75) 9:heart: J:spade: 4:heart:

      Hero bets $22, BTN raises to $34 (AI), Hero calls $12,

      TURN ($100) 9:heart: J:spade: 4:heart: 7:spade:



      RIVER ($100) 9:heart: J:spade: 4:heart: 7:spade: A:diamond:



      Villain unknown.
      First 3bet. He could 3bet light and will give me credit for my 4bet.
      On this flop i decided to b/c because a bet looks stronger than a push and with c/r i have no FE.
      Overplayed against unknown?
    • kidacao
      kidacao
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.07.2007 Posts: 5,413
      15/4/25 steal SB

      Raise preflop?
      Raise flop?
      Raise river?



      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      UTG1:
      $37.75
      UTG2:
      $18.45
      MP1:
      $50.00
      MP2:
      $115.65
      MP3:
      $53.00
      CO:
      $34.30
      BU:
      $50.00
      SB:
      $50.70
      BB(Hero):
      $53.40

      Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, T.
      7 folds, SB calls $0.25, Hero checks.

      Flop: ($1.00) 9, 8, K (2 players)
      SB bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00.

      Turn: ($3.00) A (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $2.00, SB calls $2.00.

      River: ($7.00) 3 (2 players)
      SB bets $8.50, Hero calls $8.50.

      Final Pot: $24.00.
    • Becks777
      Becks777
      Black
      Joined: 04.03.2006 Posts: 7,737
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($10.80)
      BB ($179)
      Hero ($132)
      UTG+1 ($50.40)
      CO ($70.70)
      BTN ($55.45)

      Dealt to Hero A:diamond: Q:diamond:

      Hero raises to $2, UTG+1 calls $2, fold, fold, SB calls $1.75, fold,

      FLOP ($6.50) 5:heart: Q:club: 8:heart:

      check, Hero bets $5, UTG+1 calls $5, SB folds,

      TURN ($16.50) 5:heart: Q:club: 8:heart: K:spade:

      Hero bets $11.50, UTG+1 calls $11.50,

      RIVER ($39.50) 5:heart: Q:club: 8:heart: K:spade: 9:diamond:

      Hero bets $12, UTG+1 raises to $31.90 (AI), Hero folds,

      UTG+1 wins $60.50



      Villain: 21/8/1.3/40
      C/f river?
    • bigbadurs
      bigbadurs
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.03.2008 Posts: 35
      had 44 hands of utg2, stats VPIP 55 / PFR 7 / 5.2 AF

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      CO:
      $9.35
      BU:
      $27.40
      SB(Hero):
      $25.35
      BB:
      $5.00
      UTG1:
      $4.70
      UTG2:
      $28.45
      MP1:
      $10.55
      MP2:
      $21.95
      MP3:
      $5.00

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, A.
      UTG1 folds, UTG2 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.15, BB checks.

      Flop: ($1.00) Q, A, 8 (4 players)
      Hero bets $1.00, BB folds, UTG2 calls $1.00, MP1 folds.

      Turn: ($3.00) 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.00, UTG2 raises to $6, Hero calls $3.00.

      River: ($15.00) 4 (2 players)
      Hero bets $7.50, UTG2 calls $7.50.

      Final Pot: $30.00.
    • Becks777
      Becks777
      Black
      Joined: 04.03.2006 Posts: 7,737
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($50)
      BB ($74.95)
      UTG ($53.10)
      Hero ($50)
      CO ($51.60)
      BTN ($52.45)

      Dealt to Hero A:heart: A:club:

      fold, Hero raises to $2, CO calls $2, fold, fold, BB calls $1.50,

      FLOP ($6.25) 9:spade: 3:spade: T:heart:

      BB bets $3, Hero raises to $14, CO folds, BB raises to $30.50, Hero ???

      Villain unknwon.
    • kidacao
      kidacao
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.07.2007 Posts: 5,413
      14/6/56fold cbet/26wts .



      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      BB:
      $72.25
      UTG1(Hero):
      $51.50
      UTG2:
      $52.55
      MP1:
      $50.00
      MP2:
      $28.50
      MP3:
      $47.75
      CO:
      $66.50
      BU:
      $70.35
      SB:
      $25.25

      Preflop: Hero is UTG1 with 5, 5.
      Hero raises to $2, UTG2 folds, MP1 calls $2.00, 6 folds.

      Flop: ($4.75) 4, T, 3 (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.00, MP1 calls $3.00.

      Turn: ($10.75) 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $6.50,


      Is it good that 2nd barrell?
    • kidacao
      kidacao
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.07.2007 Posts: 5,413
      66/3/1.3

      I dont think its a good steal.. but after he checks again turn y decide to bet, he minraises and it seems a resteal to me so i 4 bet .

      then he checks again river, should i bet there again? seems too weak .. but anyway i get into too much trouble against that fish



      $0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
      7 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG Riiiva ($10.00)
      UTG+1 Ralik ($70.20)
      MP QuasarLight ($10.25)
      CO BADBEAT2912 ($70.00)
      BTN Hero ($50.00)
      SB LokoIvan ($50.25)
      BB Maxou 675 ($122.80)

      Pre-flop: ($0.75, 7 players) Hero is BTN 5:club: 3:club:
      4 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Maxou 675 calls $1

      Flop: T:spade: T:diamond: 8:heart: ($3.25, 2 players)
      Maxou 675 checks, Hero checks

      Turn: J:spade: ($3.25, 2 players)
      Maxou 675 checks, Hero bets $2, Maxou 675 raises to $4, Hero raises to $11, Maxou 675 calls $7

      River: 5:diamond: ($25.25, 2 players)
      Maxou 675 checks, Hero checks
    • bigbadurs
      bigbadurs
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.03.2008 Posts: 35
      UTG was really tight one 9 VPIP / 8 PFR from Early Pos. / 6 AF. There was a dry board so i didn't 3bet for protection here, i gave him tt > or ak. only qq got me beat here. Are there better arguments to 3bet him on the flop?

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      BB:
      $26.65
      UTG2:
      $30.40
      MP1:
      $32.25
      MP2:
      $16.40
      MP3:
      $25.00
      CO:
      $5.85
      BU(Hero):
      $25.00
      SB:
      $24.75

      Preflop: Hero is BU with 4, 4.
      UTG2 raises to $1, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.00, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($2.35) 9, 4, Q (2 players)
      UTG2 bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50.

      Turn: ($5.35) 8 (2 players)
      UTG2 bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50.

      River: ($12.35) A (2 players)
      UTG2 bets $8.00, Hero raises to $19(All-In), UTG2 calls $11.00.

      Final Pot: $50.35.
    • Termi8r
      Termi8r
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.02.2008 Posts: 408
      Villian VPIP=57 PFR=11

      I'm a BSS noob. Sorry this is a very low limit hand... how should I go about playing the over pair?

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $5.84
      SB:
      $2.65
      BB:
      $8.66
      UTG1:
      $5.98
      UTG2:
      $5.05
      MP1(Hero):
      $5.00
      MP2:
      $14.01
      MP3:
      $2.97
      CO:
      $5.00

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, A.
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.2, 4 folds, SB calls $0.18, BB calls $0.15.

      Flop: ($0.60) 5, 2, T (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.40, SB folds, BB calls $0.40.

      Turn: ($1.40) Q (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks.

      River: ($1.40) 2 (2 players)
      BB bets $1.45, Hero calls $1.45.

      Final Pot: $4.30.

      Should I have bet the turn? Should I call the river?
    • bigbadurs
      bigbadurs
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.03.2008 Posts: 35
      Had 32 hands of MP2 VPIP 32 / PFR 16 / AF only 1. I really think this one is misplayed i should either fold to the turn bet or call and check call the river, or to weak here?

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

      Known players:
      CO(Hero):
      $26.90
      BU:
      $33.45
      SB:
      $19.75
      BB:
      $7.15
      MP1:
      $4.65
      MP2:
      $59.00
      MP3:
      $29.50

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A.
      MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $0.75, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, 3 folds, MP2 calls $1.50.

      Flop: ($4.85) J, T, 6 (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $3.50, MP2 calls $3.50.

      Turn: ($11.85) J (2 players)
      MP2 bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50.

      River: ($22.85) 8 (2 players)
      MP2 bets $15.75, Hero folds, MP2 gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $22.85.
    • kidacao
      kidacao
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.07.2007 Posts: 5,413
      Unknown



      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BU(Hero):
      $50.45
      SB:
      $51.75
      BB:
      $77.60
      MP2:
      $41.25
      MP3:
      $30.00
      CO:
      $52.80

      Preflop: Hero is BU with 9, 9.
      3 folds, Hero raises to $1.5, SB folds, BB raises to $3.75, Hero calls $2.25.

      Flop: ($7.75) 8, 2, 7 (2 players)
      BB bets $2.00, Hero calls $2.00.

      Turn: ($11.75) T (2 players)
      BB bets $6.75, Hero calls $6.75.

      River: ($25.25) K (2 players)
      BB bets $10.00, Hero folds, BB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $25.25.
    • Yagrim
      Yagrim
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.03.2007 Posts: 531
      In my opinion in this hand I made everything wrong, that could be done wrong :( Yet I don't know what was the biggest mistake.

      Villain was pretty unknown, but definitely not very reasonable. I saw him bluff betting the river all-in before although his stack was way smaller.


      Known players:    
      Hero:
      $109,70
      BB:
      $50,00
      MP1:
      $119,00
      MP3:
      $46,25
      CO:
      $50,00

      0,25/0,5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: PokerStrategy Elephant 0.67 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K:spade: , J:diamond:
      2 folds, MP1 calls $0,50, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $0,50, CO calls $0,50, BU folds, Hero calls $0,25, BB checks.

      After that much limpers I didn't want to raise KJ from the SB, so I just completed.

      Flop: ($2,50) J:spade: , 7:club: , 9:diamond: (5 players)
      Hero bets $2,00, BB folds, MP1 raises to $4,00, 2 folds, Hero calls $2,00.

      With the TP I decided to bet, to see what my opponents do. His minraise kinda sucked, because I didn't really know if that's strength or weakness.

      Turn: ($10,50) J:heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 bets $3,00, Hero calls $3,00.

      b/c, c/c or c/f? I played c/c because I didn't want to be confronted with another minraise, but on the other side my hand is too strong to just fold it here.

      River: ($16,50) 3:heart: (2 players)
      Hero bets $10,00, MP1 raises to $111,50 (All-In), Hero calls $92,20 (All-In), MP1 gets uncalled bet back.

      I wanted to get value from maybe a 9, TT or a misplayed overpair, but somehow it went wrong. I took all my time bank for the decision and afterwards I think I could have folded here after his huge raise.

      Final Pot: $220,90
    • Termi8r
      Termi8r
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.02.2008 Posts: 408
      Villian VPIP=45 PFR=0 AG=2 over 44 hands i.e. bad player

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

      Known players:
      CO:
      $9.03
      BU:
      $2.51
      SB:
      $5.00
      BB:
      $6.12
      MP1:
      $1.67
      MP2(Hero):
      $6.26
      MP3:
      $4.59

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, J.
      MP1 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, 5 folds, MP1 calls $0.20.

      Flop: ($0.57) K, 3, 7 (2 players)
      MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.40, MP1 raises to $0.8, Hero folds, MP1 gets uncalled bet back.

      Maybe a call and see what happens on turn?

      Final Pot: $0.97.
    • bigbadurs
      bigbadurs
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.03.2008 Posts: 35
      Had 91 hands of BU 24 VPIP / 3 PFR / 0 ATS / 1.4 AF

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2:
      $25.35
      MP3:
      $24.70
      CO:
      $28.90
      BU:
      $31.25
      SB:
      $19.00
      BB(Hero):
      $26.20
      MP1:
      $10.40

      Preflop: Hero is BB with A, 6.
      4 folds, BU raises to $0.75, SB folds, Hero calls $0.50.

      Flop: ($1.60) 7, A, 6 (2 players)
      Hero checks, BU bets $1.00, Hero raises to $3, BU calls $2.00.

      Turn: ($7.60) 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $8.00, BU raises to $22.75, Hero calls $14.45(All-In).

      River: ($52.80) 7 (2 players)

      Final Pot: $52.80.
    • kidacao
      kidacao
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.07.2007 Posts: 5,413
      this hand wasnt played by me..

      Stats: VPIP PFR AF ATS WTSD 3BET FOLD3BET RAISECB DONKCB FOLDCB

      14 12 2.1 40 2 76 23 28 50

      $0.25/$0.5 No Limit Holdem
      8 players
      Converted at weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG ($54.40)
      UTG+1 ($55.40)
      MP1 ($50.50)
      MP2 ($50.00)
      CO ($72.20)
      BTN ($47.25)
      SB ($92.90)
      Hero (BB) ($105.00)

      Pre-flop: ($0.75, 8 players) Hero is BB 2:spade: T:spade:
      6 folds, SB raises to $2, Hero raises to $7, SB calls $5

      Flop: 9:diamond: Q:spade: 8:spade: ($14, 2 players)
      SB bets $6.50, Hero raises to $20, SB goes all-in $85.90, Hero calls $65.90

      Turn: 6:diamond: ($185.80, 2 players)

      River: 4:diamond: ($185.80, 2 players)
    • gr1nd3r
      gr1nd3r
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.12.2008 Posts: 715
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      BU(Hero):
      $9.95
      SB:
      $11.20
      BB:
      $9.75
      MP3:
      $10.00
      CO:
      $10.30

      Preflop: Hero is BU with Q, T.
      MP3 folds, CO calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.5, 2 folds, CO calls $0.40.

      Flop: ($1.15) 3, 9, Q (2 players)
      CO checks, Hero bets $0.80, CO raises to $2.6, Hero calls $1.80.

      Turn: ($6.35) A (2 players)
      CO bets $3.00, Hero folds, CO gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $6.35.
    • Termi8r
      Termi8r
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.02.2008 Posts: 408
      Villian 49 / 4 / 0.5 (VPIP / PFR / AG)

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      $0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      UTG1:
      $6.78
      UTG2:
      $5.55
      MP1:
      $8.34
      MP2(Hero):
      $4.21
      MP3:
      $6.35
      CO:
      $4.73
      BU:
      $4.93
      SB:
      $3.93
      BB:
      $7.67

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A, J.
      UTG1 calls $0.05, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.2, 2 folds, BU calls $0.20, SB folds, BB calls $0.15, UTG1 calls $0.15.

      Flop: ($0.82) 5, A, J (4 players)
      BB checks, UTG1 checks, Hero bets $0.50, BU folds, BB folds, UTG1 calls $0.50.

      Turn: ($1.82) 4 (2 players)
      UTG1 checks, Hero bets $1.30, UTG1 calls $1.30.

      River: ($4.42) 6 (2 players)
      UTG1 bets $0.95, Hero calls $0.95.

      Final Pot: $6.32.