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Online poker, laws, taxes and countries.

    • pavlexander
      Joined: 04.07.2008 Posts: 37
      Hi there,

      I would like to get info from the residents of countries like: USA, Canada, Germany, Great Britain and maybe some others about :

      (Answer form)

      1. Country
      2. Is online poker allowed? (poker rooms like PokerStars, FullTilt, ..)
      3. Taxes(if any), how many(%), special aspects, laws
      4(if known). Taxes for non-residents(aliens)
      5. Additional info(if any)

      I appreciate information from officials or people, who came through the way of paying taxes(felt this on his/her back) and the ones, who can guarantee that this is 99,9% true info.

      P.S. oh and please don't give me the links on laws.. that's why I created answer form, it's just more understandable.

      thanks in advance

      oh and if you are an admin and about to ban this thread, please, post link on the similar thread, thanks :]
  • 7 replies
    • Janosikgdy
      Joined: 06.05.2007 Posts: 4,480
      Hi, great topic.

      I would like to get some info about legal situation of poker online in : Spain, Portugal, France :f_love:

      As far as I know online poker in UK is allowed, however if a site is not registered in European Union you have to pay taxes. If it is in EU it is tax free. Can someone confirm that?
    • lozz08
      Joined: 26.06.2009 Posts: 106

      Yes, allowed
      NOT taxed, unless it is your sole income I believe (somebody confirm?)

      Most poker rooms legal, some will not allow you to deposit for whatever reasons.

      In Australia, it is illegal to operate an online poker operation. Any online poker played here is from overseas companies only. You cannot sset up your own room.
    • OrcaAoc
      Joined: 06.08.2006 Posts: 5,011
      1. Germany
      2. Not really, the actual law situation isnt exactly straight forward - however all big rooms allow german players and the possibility to get in conflict with law is close to zero.
      3. No. However if you play poker for a living you have to pay taxes theoretecially that is because you have to pay taxes on everything you do for a living even if it is something which doenst require to pay taxes normally.
      4. no idea
      5. The situation in germany is pretty goofy in general, because even if you ask experts on the topic (e.g. lawers) its very likley that you will get a bunch of different answers on what is allowed an what isnt.
    • daytripper84
      Joined: 16.09.2008 Posts: 24
      1. Canada
      2. Yes online poker + gambling is allowed
      3. No taxes whatsoever on winnings (although not certain about professional poker players)
      4. Illegal aliens have no rights basically (if thats what you mean), but if the so called alien can sign up w/ a canadian bank, or has a credit card, then should be able to
      5. legal age of gambling in Canada is 18 (at least in my province, could be 19 in some others)
    • Berzerger
      Joined: 24.03.2008 Posts: 910
      1. Belgium.

      2. Online poker is allowed, any player can deposit and play on a poker site without any problems. Although some banks might not allow you to deposit on gambling sites, so you'd have to use an e-wallet like Neteller. Even if the bank finds out, they don't care as long as you don't deposit directly onto a poker site.

      3. Now that's a goddamn jurisdictional nightmare. If you want to withdraw your money onto a Belgian bank account, you're obliged to pay 30-33% of your winnings as taxes. This is the official rule for professional poker players in particular, and for gamblers in general.

      Although if you keep your withdrawals small (below 1000 EUR) they usually don't even notice. If the local IRS catches you, you tell them your money comes from an e-wallet, and since it's not a national company, they have no right to disclose your personal info, and IRS won't find out you won your money playing poker. You still might have to pay taxes on that money, so it's best to stay below the radar.

      4. If you work in a country, you're taxed by that country, that's the local policy. If you play poker for a living though, and don't have a Belgian bank account or don't use it to put your winnings on, then the money's all yours.

      5. An association of card players is now trying to negotiate with the authorities to legalize poker cash games in Belgium. Right now home games for money are illegal and can cost the organizer (not the players!) a serious fine. Cash games in the casino's are not allowed, only tournaments, and they even have to request a license every time they want to organize one. In general, not a very poker-friendly country.
    • pavlexander
      Joined: 04.07.2008 Posts: 37
      I got some info on yahooAnswers.. answer on this question was made by TheMadProfessor

      1. USA

      2. A few states have passed local (and basically unenforceable) laws against it, but only national laws are those preventing electronic fund transfers between gambling sites and US banks.

      3. Gambling wins are taxable like any other form of income (and gambling losses deductible to a degree), with the rate dependent on total income for the individual. (That said, unless the amounts involved are large enough to merit note when deposited into a bank, it's unlikely the IRS will know about them.)

      4. Since most gambling sites are based outside the US, probably none unless the funds are deposited into a US bank (then answer 3 might apply, depending on circumstances).
    • tcs35
      Joined: 31.01.2009 Posts: 3,583
      1. uk
      2. i assume so otherwise what are the internet police gonna do?
      3. nope
      5. cba