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[NL20-NL50] NL25 - KK. Fold to the fish's turn shove?

    • DecMate
      DecMate
      Gold
      Joined: 25.01.2009 Posts: 1,468
      Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players - View hand 953546
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      CO: $19.41
      BTN: $25.70
      Hero (SB): $31.21
      BB: $25.00
      UTG: $19.05
      UTG+1: $12.22
      MP1: $20.99
      MP2: $28.05

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with K :heart: K :diamond:
      3 folds, MP2 calls $0.25, CO raises to $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, MP2 calls $1.75, 1 fold

      Flop: ($4.75) 2 :diamond: 6 :spade: T :club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $3.50, MP2 calls $3.50

      Turn: ($11.75) J :heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP2 bets $1.25, Hero raises to $6, MP2 raises to $22.55 all in, Hero folds

      he's 17/5 over 200+ hands. I think he had 10J / set and don't think he's shoving AJ there. Right fold?
  • 5 replies
    • Chenghao
      Chenghao
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.10.2009 Posts: 274
      He limps UTG and calls a 4bet
      he calls a dry flop IP

      when you check turn , he bets , you raise , he shove.

      high chances its a PP that set-mined. unlikely to play TJ that way.

      as played , on turn i think its better to switch into passive mode and c/c his smallish turn bet , at least you get to see what he does with hit set and outplay him later. even if he has a set / TJ , you still have your outs with KK
    • DecMate
      DecMate
      Gold
      Joined: 25.01.2009 Posts: 1,468
      Originally posted by Chenghao
      He limps UTG and calls a 4bet
      he calls a dry flop IP

      when you check turn , he bets , you raise , he shove.

      high chances its a PP that set-mined. unlikely to play TJ that way.

      as played , on turn i think its better to switch into passive mode and c/c his smallish turn bet , at least you get to see what he does with hit set and outplay him later. even if he has a set / TJ , you still have your outs with KK
      I don't agree.
      Calling a 1.75bet is way to weak in a 11$ pot. he could just be doing it with some type of draw hoping that i call so he gets a cheap card.
    • ZhiCheng
      ZhiCheng
      Bronze
      Joined: 04.10.2008 Posts: 2,294
      Why arent we b/f turn?

      still so much value to be had imo..
    • DecMate
      DecMate
      Gold
      Joined: 25.01.2009 Posts: 1,468
      ah wtf i dont know i thought i was IP at first.
      shoulda bet turn,
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      once you c/r turn I think you shouldn´t really fold your hand
      I think also very reasonable line would be b/f turn yourself. Since it is hard him to call you down with worse hands than KK