• Silver
Joined: 14.09.2009
Some might find that info useful:

I have made some quick calculation with the new black card bonuses. The cheapest bonuses are the one purchased with the FTPA credits. Then the ones purchased with FTPs and finally the one purchased with the iron man medals are the most costly. It is well worth it to purchase ftp with the medals and then purchase a bonus from the black card store
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• Bronze
Joined: 13.12.2009
Maybe you can show how did you calculated that?
• Bronze
Joined: 25.06.2009
Are you 100% sure it's a better deal to use Iron Man Medals to buy FTP points and then use these FTP points to buy cash bonuses?

As opposed to just buying a cash bonus directly with the Iron Man Medas?
• Bronze
Joined: 13.12.2009
After some researches I agree on that But I might be wrong
• Silver
Joined: 14.09.2009
for the calculation:

if you change ftp into bonuses it cost here is the ftp cost per \$

\$50 -> 300ftp/\$
\$100 -> 285ftp/\$
\$250 -> 260ftp/\$
\$500 -> 250ftp/\$
\$2000 -> 240ftp/\$
\$5000 -> 220ftp/\$

for the Iron man store you can change your medals at a ratio of 50 ftp per medal (best case scenario)

if you do 1 medal is 50 ftp and get the bonus from the iron man store:

here is the equivalent cost from bonus to ftp:

\$100 -> 300ftp/\$
\$300 -> 266.66ftp/\$
\$600 -> 250ftp/\$

so slightly more expensive

finally you can change the FTPA credits to ftp at a ratio of 1:1

so with that ratio if you get the bonuses from the academy store:

\$100 -> 200ftp/\$
\$300 -> 200ftp/\$
\$600 -> 166.66ftp/\$
• Bronze
Joined: 13.12.2009
Thank you for the hint
• Bronze
Joined: 25.06.2009
So do both options (buying FTPs and then buying black card cash bonuses OR buying cash bonuses directly with the medals) both effect rakeback the same way?
• Silver
Joined: 14.09.2009
the rakeback should only be affected at the moment you clear the bonus. it should not be hit at the time of purchasing the bonus or ftps
• Bronze
Joined: 06.05.2008
an easy way to calculate the RB hit is take 27% off the bonus...

so if u buy a \$100 bonus, u should think of it as a \$73 bonus

can someone redo the math with the RB hit taken into account this way?
• Bronze
Joined: 04.06.2009
Here is my calculation FTP vs medals.

As you can see, 600\$ medals bonus = 125k FTPP bonus.

Max +RB for FTPP is 4.55% * 2 (black card) * 0.73 (RB reduction) = 6.643% RB
• Silver
Joined: 14.09.2009
my point was just that you would get the same rakeback hit whether you buy your bonus with FTPs, FTPA credits or medals and so the comparison would not change which one is more profitable to purchase.
Joined: 30.06.2010
Thanks for your calculation and the hint
• Bronze
Joined: 25.06.2009
Thanks everyone!

Just to be sure. The bonuses you get from Iron Man Medals are still instant right? But the Black Card Store's bonuses are released as you play?

I might just get the instant Iron Man Medals bonuses then, since you can only clear one bonus at a time and as a Black Card grinder I will likely always be clearing a cash bonus from the Black Card Store...
• Silver
Joined: 14.09.2009
all the bonuses are released as you play (need to be cleared)
• Bronze
Joined: 06.05.2008
and only clear at 4c/fpp not 6c/fpp anymore