Small pocketpairs - limp vs. raise

    • SilverSag
      SilverSag
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      Joined: 11.07.2010 Posts: 512
      in No-Limit $10 Fullring Live Video - Part I from g5sterne I noticed that he is raising with small pocket pairs even if there are limpers before him.

      From strategy articles I understood that "standard" play would be raising only if there are no limpers before me, so isolating limpers is not really a standard play.

      Can someone explain when does it make sense to play small pocketpairs like this and what size bets would be appropriate? Or this kind of play is a bit too advanced for NL10 and NL25?
  • 3 replies
    • joecar
      joecar
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      Joined: 09.04.2008 Posts: 347
      Mainly what info/stats you have on villain(s)
      - In position
      - If they are relatively loose, fold to cbet often
      - Implied odds of stacking a loose player on hitting a set etc.
      - villans Betting pattern/ hand range
      - Tight player folding when missing flop a lot
      open raise 4bb +1bb for additional limper
    • Bierbaer
      Bierbaer
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      Joined: 27.05.2005 Posts: 7,989
      Originally posted by joecar
      Mainly what info/stats you have on villain(s)
      - In position
      - If they are relatively loose, fold to cbet often
      - Implied odds of stacking a loose player on hitting a set etc.
      - villans Betting pattern/ hand range
      - Tight player folding when missing flop a lot
      open raise 4bb +1bb for additional limper
      Pretty much this.

      One thing to consider with overlimping is, that you usually get a lot of folds on the flop - no one is just stacking off in a limped pot with TPtype hands, so you might not even have the odds to overlimp the pocket pair!
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
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      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Originally posted by Bierbaer
      Originally posted by joecar
      Mainly what info/stats you have on villain(s)
      - In position
      - If they are relatively loose, fold to cbet often
      - Implied odds of stacking a loose player on hitting a set etc.
      - villans Betting pattern/ hand range
      - Tight player folding when missing flop a lot
      open raise 4bb +1bb for additional limper
      Pretty much this.

      One thing to consider with overlimping is, that you usually get a lot of folds on the flop - no one is just stacking off in a limped pot with TPtype hands, so you might not even have the odds to overlimp the pocket pair!
      On top of it, if you play the low PPs, chances are you will flop bottom set often. So set over set where you have the worst of it is more likely, especially if players don't stack off with their TP type hands much.