Positive bankroll with negative ROI?

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    • lennert9
      lennert9
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      Either you somehow cleared a bonus or something, or otherwise, the program you are using to track your tournaments somehow missed a few of the ones where you won money. (ROI is only a stat for SNG's and MTT4's, so if you have been playing cashgames, it could be that you are a winning cashgamer but a losing tournament player.
    • Bojan1983
      Bojan1983
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      Joined: 15.11.2006 Posts: 92
      You probablly had better results on higher buyin tournaments...

      if you win one 10$ sng, and lose eight 1$ sngs, you ll have negative ROI but positive bankroll...
    • MikeAK47
      MikeAK47
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      Joined: 11.03.2008 Posts: 136
      Originally posted by Bojan1983
      You probablly had better results on higher buyin tournaments...

      if you win one 10$ sng, and lose eight 1$ sngs, you ll have negative ROI but positive bankroll...
      Na, your 'average roi' on sharkscope would be negative, but pokertracker uses total buy in and total net profit to calculate ROI so if you've won money overall then you'll have a positive ROI.

      What software/website tells you that you have a negative ROI OP?
    • CHARMANDER06
      CHARMANDER06
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      Joined: 06.08.2010 Posts: 301
      sharkscope. I have been doing pretty bad at the 1$ SnGs but been doing very well in the 5$ SnGs.
    • pzhon
      pzhon
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      Originally posted by CHARMANDER06
      sharkscope. I have been doing pretty bad at the 1$ SnGs but been doing very well in the 5$ SnGs.
      As Bojan1983 said, that is exactly how it is possible on SharkScope.

      Here is an even simpler example. Let us suppose you play 2 tournaments. You lose a $1.20, and you get a $9 prize for placing third in a $5.50. You paid $6.70 and got back $9.00 in prizes for a net profit of $2.30. To calculate your ROI, Sharkscope calculates an ROI for each tournament, and then averages these. Your ROI for the $1.20 loss is -100%. Your ROI for the $9.00 in a $5.50 is +63.6%. The average is -18.2%.

      There are alternative conventions, but this is what SharkScope uses.

      SharkScope can also tell you your ROI by stake level, either in a graph or with an advanced search filtered to tournaments of a given type.
    • CHARMANDER06
      CHARMANDER06
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      Joined: 06.08.2010 Posts: 301
      Thanks pzhon ! The answer I was looking for.