# Positive bankroll with negative ROI?

• Bronze
Joined: 06.08.2010
Hey guys, Im currently at +35\$ in my bankroll but my ROI is at -35%. Can someone explain to me how this is possible? Thanks!
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• Bronze
Joined: 06.10.2008
Either you somehow cleared a bonus or something, or otherwise, the program you are using to track your tournaments somehow missed a few of the ones where you won money. (ROI is only a stat for SNG's and MTT4's, so if you have been playing cashgames, it could be that you are a winning cashgamer but a losing tournament player.
• Bronze
Joined: 15.11.2006

if you win one 10\$ sng, and lose eight 1\$ sngs, you ll have negative ROI but positive bankroll...
• Bronze
Joined: 11.03.2008
Originally posted by Bojan1983

if you win one 10\$ sng, and lose eight 1\$ sngs, you ll have negative ROI but positive bankroll...
Na, your 'average roi' on sharkscope would be negative, but pokertracker uses total buy in and total net profit to calculate ROI so if you've won money overall then you'll have a positive ROI.

What software/website tells you that you have a negative ROI OP?
• Bronze
Joined: 06.08.2010
sharkscope. I have been doing pretty bad at the 1\$ SnGs but been doing very well in the 5\$ SnGs.
• Bronze
Joined: 17.06.2010
Originally posted by CHARMANDER06
sharkscope. I have been doing pretty bad at the 1\$ SnGs but been doing very well in the 5\$ SnGs.
As Bojan1983 said, that is exactly how it is possible on SharkScope.

Here is an even simpler example. Let us suppose you play 2 tournaments. You lose a \$1.20, and you get a \$9 prize for placing third in a \$5.50. You paid \$6.70 and got back \$9.00 in prizes for a net profit of \$2.30. To calculate your ROI, Sharkscope calculates an ROI for each tournament, and then averages these. Your ROI for the \$1.20 loss is -100%. Your ROI for the \$9.00 in a \$5.50 is +63.6%. The average is -18.2%.

There are alternative conventions, but this is what SharkScope uses.

SharkScope can also tell you your ROI by stake level, either in a graph or with an advanced search filtered to tournaments of a given type.
• Bronze
Joined: 06.08.2010
Thanks pzhon ! The answer I was looking for.