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[NL20-NL50] nl50 Rush - KK vs unkown

    • Tim64
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,028
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($107)
      BB ($55)
      Hero ($56.60)
      UTG+1 ($24.25)
      CO ($52.70)
      BTN ($41.95)

      Dealt to Hero K:club: K:spade:

      Hero raises to $1.75, fold, fold, BTN calls $1.75, fold, fold

      FLOP ($4.25) 6:spade: 4:diamond: 3:heart:

      Hero bets $3, BTN calls $3

      TURN ($10.25) 6:spade: 4:diamond: 3:heart: T:club:

      Hero bets $7, BTN calls $7

      RIVER ($24.25) 6:spade: 4:diamond: 3:heart: T:club: 2:club:

      Hero bets $13.50, BTN raises to $27, Hero calls $13.50

      villain unknown 33/17/3 18 hs
      River: bet/f; bet/c; ch/c; ch/f ?

  • 3 replies
    • AninIII
      Joined: 13.07.2008 Posts: 944

      as the 2 is really an ugly card as 55 arrives, I'd ch/f if villain is passive and maybe ch/c up to 1/2pot if he is somewhat aggressive.
      As played: bet/f is better than bet/c although you get incredible odds.
      Against that villain, although only few hands, I'd tend to order the possibilities the following way:

      ch/c > ch/f > bet/f > bet/c

      What did he have?

      Best regards,
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I would fold to big raise on the river, but getting these odds I think I have to b/c with KK. Never can be sure when someone decides to min-raise river for value JJ/QQ
      I´d I´m going to check then I guess I´m calling bet if it is around 20$. he can still valuebet worse hands or bluff smt like A7
    • Tim64
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,028
      What did he have?


      Agree with your analysis, Anin.

      I think bet/fold looks marginally better than ch/c just because villain can have JJ/QQ/67s here as easily as 55 (and more combos) and he probably plays it the same way up to the river so we miss value by checking, as those hands usually check behind. I.e. I think we are mostly behind villains betting range.

      But, as Im discovering, when villain raises river we can almost always fold regardless the odds - its almost never a bluff on nl50.