[NL2-NL10] nl10 34s

    • jmackenzie
      jmackenzie
      Silver
      Joined: 04.06.2008 Posts: 1,241
      $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Holdem
      888
      5 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      Stacks:
      UTG Kavabanga ($10.10)
      CO ezel007 ($6.39)
      BTN Ndugu03 ($16.13)
      SB Hero ($11.40)
      BB dronzzz ($3.50)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.15, 5 players) Hero is SB 3:spade: 4:spade:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, dronzzz calls $0.20

      Flop: 8:spade: J:spade: 5:diamond: ($0.60, 2 players)
      Hero bets $0.40, dronzzz raises to $1.20, Hero raises to $11.10, dronzzz goes all-in $2

      villan
      vpip 16
      pfr 13
      AF 2.3
      hands 63

      small bet in sb pfreflop because my main aim is to steal his blind without putting any unnecessary $ in
  • 7 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello jmackenzie,

      What do you beat there on flop against you are going all-in? You only have a flushdraw and he is likely going to Call the shove anyway since he doesn't have much left and after his raise he ain't folding his TP type of hand. Just Bet/Fold the flop.

      Best regards.
    • maya1984
      maya1984
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      With bdsd+fd, the money invested and villain reaming stack it's a mistake to b/f here. even against a range of KJ+ and sets and 0 fe hero's has 40 equity thus it's an ev+ bet/shove.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Small stack doesn't always mean that we have to go broke and take a lot bigger variance line in such situations.

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 36,736% 36,736% 0,000% 63,264% 4s3s
      Player 2: 63,264% 63,264% 0,000% 36,736% 88, 55, AJs, KJs, QJs, JTs, J8s, AJo, KJo, QJo, JTo, J8o

      But with the calculations how much we need to make it break-even push we get:

      # ADVANCED POKER #

      Assumption:
      On the flop you have 41% equity against your opponent's pushing range.
      EV(All-In Call) = 0.41 * $4,5 - 0.59 * $2,8 = 1,845 - 1,652 = 0,193
      EV(opponent calls c/r) = EV(Post-flop)

      Therefore here we get small profit of 0,193.

      On the flop you have 36,7% equity against your opponent's pushing range.
      EV(All-In Call) = 0.367 * $4,5 - 0.633 * $2,8 = 1,615 - 1,7724 = - 0,1574
      EV(opponent calls c/r) = EV(Post-flop)

      Summarize such calculation we get negative EV.

      # ADVANCED POKER #

      So here we find even against 41% equity we farely getting near very break-even. I'd to avoid the variance and what's better for lower stakes it's in my way fold since against that equity what I put we are in negative profit.

      But that ain't the point, we are not here to teach the hard calculations on such low limits, most the basic play and to avoid the variance for moving up faster.

      # ADVANCED POKER # - you don't have to understand this calculations, it's for later on when you get to higher stakes you will have access to such articles and calculations.
    • 3betForFood
      3betForFood
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.03.2010 Posts: 81
      :) u were faster...
    • maya1984
      maya1984
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.12.2008 Posts: 1,741
      This in not accurate. u risk 2.8 to win what's in the pot + the amount he needs to call.
      so that's investing 2.8 to win 4 which yields 41% which is what we need with our equity against the strong range that I gave him.
      Even if he always at the top of his range (thus we have 0 fe and we have about 40% equity) I'm still considering it to be a better line when i add the benefits of building an aggressive image which will help getting paid off later with my monsters.
    • mordath
      mordath
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.11.2009 Posts: 396
      So.. who's right? Bet/fold or Bet/3b shove?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by mordath
      So.. who's right? Bet/fold or Bet/3b shove?
      Updated the post, take a look and decide your own. Which play you prefer.