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[NL20-NL50] NL50SH villain calls 4bet ip&oop

    • Gabinr1
      Joined: 05.04.2009 Posts: 7,755
      1. I'm oop

      UTG: $96.10
      Hero (MP): $73.45
      CO: $19.75
      BTN: $53.05
      SB: $68.90
      BB: $118.20

      Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is MP with Q :heart: Q :spade:
      1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, 1 fold, BTN raises to $5.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12.50, BTN calls $7

      Flop: ($25.75) 7 :club: K :club: T :diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $13, BTN calls $13

      Turn: ($51.75) 6 :club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, BTN bets $27.55 all in, Hero folds

      Villain is 21/18/7.1 in 261 h
      1.5AF 27WTS

      I was willing to go all in preflop. After villain calls the 4bet I'm clueless, if he had AK, AA, KK he lost value - a bluff may not be profitable for him, because as soon as he called I decided that I'm going broke on any flop that doesn't contain A,K or J.

      On this flop oop I don't know what to do. Maybe check/folding is a better idea, he will never bet a weaker hand (seems passive 1.5AF).

      After I bet and villain calls I give up, because he probably has AK.

      Thoughts on the hand?
      What should we do if villain shoves the flop?

      2. I'm ip

      MP: $33.60
      CO: $65.60
      Hero (BTN): $89.40
      SB: $50.00
      BB: $68.60
      UTG: $153.20

      Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with K :diamond: 8 :club:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, 1 fold, BB raises to $4, Hero raises to $10.50, BB calls $6.50

      Flop: ($21.25) 6 :spade: J :diamond: K :club: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $11.50, BB calls $11.50

      Turn: ($44.25) J :club: (2 players)
      BB bets $46.60 all in, Hero folds

      Villain is 20/15/9.7 in 570h.
      1.6AF 26WTS

      I cbet Flop because I don't want to induce a bluff from a weaker hand than having to fold the best hand.

      In retrospect a check behind may be better. Calling the turn if villain bets and checking behind/folding River.

      How do you play when somebody flats your 4bet?
  • 1 reply
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      1) if you bet flop I don´t think you should b/f consider there are flushdraw ont he board that he can easily shove so I think b/c flop is fine. c/f turn is also ok. He won´t call with worse hands, flushdraw got there, to c/c there he basically has to shove turn smt like 99 or QJ/AQ that he didn´t shove on the flop.
      2) If you c-bet you have to go with your hand, so likely better is check behind and keep pot small. Since seems like BB can make moves in 4-bet pots I won´t really fold my top pair to his turn shove. his range can still be enough draws or easily smt like 6c7c that he would shove turn. Basically folding there K8 means you should also likely fold KQ/AK since you don´t expect him to shove turn with worse hands than Jx+