[NL2-NL10] NL20 FR Playing the river

    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.02.2007 Posts: 429
      Hello....

      I have a lot of difficulty in playing the river when draws complete.
      It is the most difficult street for me.

      Both hands below fit in this situation and I´m in doubt whether I should have bet for value on the river.


      Titan Poker 0.10/0.20, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker



      Button ($19.83)
      SB Hero ($53.49)
      BB ($5.94)
      UTG ($3.10)
      UTG+1 ($5.01)
      UTG+2 ($21.14)
      MP1 ($22.10)
      MP2($26.75)
      MP3 ($25.59)

      Hero A :diamond: ,K :diamond:

      Preflop: , 4 folds, MP2 calls 0.20, 2 folds, Hero raises to 1.00, 1 fold, MP2 calls 0.90.

      Flop (2.40) J :spade: T :spade: K :heart:
      Herobets 1.40, MP2 raises to 2.80, Hero calls 1.40.

      Reviewing the hand should have bet more on the flop and turn

      Turn (8.00) Q :heart:
      Hero checks, MP2 bets 4.00, Hero raises to 10.00, MP2 calls 6.00.

      River (28.00) T :heart:
      Hero checks, MP2 checks

      Should I bet for value here, even with a flush draw completed?


      Titan Poker 0.10/0.20, hand converted by the iPoker Converter at Talking-Poker


      Button ($3.90)
      SB ($18.93)
      BB ($33.00)
      UTG ($7.33)
      UTG+1 ($17,05)
      UTG+2 ($29,83)
      MP1 Hero ($17.47)
      MP2 ($24.52)
      MP3 3 ($8.58)
      CO ($20.12)

      Hero T :club: ,T :diamond:

      Preflop: , 2 folds, UTG+2 calls 0.20,Hero calls 0.20, 1 fold, CO calls 0.20, 2 folds, SB calls 0.10, BB checks.

      Flop (1.00) 4 :spade: 9 :heart: T :spade:
      SB checks, BB checks,MP1 checks, Hero bets 1.00, 2 folds, BB calls 1.00, MP1 calls 1.00.

      Turn (4.00) 7 :club:
      BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets 4.00, 1 fold, MP1 calls 4.00.

      River (12.00) Q :heart:
      MP1 checks, Hero checks

      Once again, should I have bet for value here even with straight draws completed? And if raised what to do? I didn´t like the turn call after a draw completed.
  • 4 replies
    • degnic
      degnic
      Bronze
      Joined: 06.02.2007 Posts: 3,953
      Hand 1 bet a bit more on flop (~2 on this drawy board), check/raise on turn is good, but I would again bet bigger to protect my hand against 2 pairs etc. On river it's good to check/call because with the river card he could have flush or even fullhouse.

      Hand 2 easy valuebet on river, he does not show any strenght on any street so your set should definetly be good here & if he raises it's an easy call. You should raise this hand preflop btw.
    • mchaggis
      mchaggis
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.09.2006 Posts: 157
      I'd bet the 2nd hand. You're ahead against most of the hands and the only draw that completed was inside straight draw with KJ. If raised I wouldn't fold.
      (and why is MP1=hero playing himself?)

      1st hand I check/call. No value here imo.
    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.02.2007 Posts: 429
      Thanks guys..
      @Mchaggis MP1 =hero playing himself is due to manual conversion, in other words my mistake. :rolleyes: . The correct is UTG+2

      @Degnic, youre right. Should have raised pf, being MP, on hand2
    • Puschkin81
      Puschkin81
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.04.2006 Posts: 4,786
      Hi Gungunhana!

      I agree with the other guys.

      Hand 1) Bet more on the flop. Check/raise bigger on the turn and check/call river.

      Hand 2) Easy valuebet. It's very unlikely that Villain has a straight here.

      Good luck at the tables!
      Puschkin81