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[NL2-NL10] Sh10-Qq

    • Backcushion
      Backcushion
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.12.2007 Posts: 816
      Cake - $0.10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      Hero (UTG): $14.31
      MP: $3.59
      CO: $6.42
      BTN: $10.43
      SB: $9.90
      BB: $9.89

      SB posts SB $0.05, BB posts BB $0.10

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero has Q:diamond: Q:heart:

      Hero raises to $0.40, MP calls $0.40, fold, fold, fold, fold

      Flop: ($0.95, 2 players) 9:spade: 4:spade: 2:spade:
      Hero bets $0.65, MP raises to $2.90, Hero raises to $7.40, MP calls $0.29 and is all-in

      Turn: ($7.33, 2 players) 3:spade:

      River: ($7.33, 2 players) 7:club:

      vs a fish
      Bet flop like half potsize abouts+fold to shove?I obviously looked at shiny pot odds.
  • 2 replies
    • StaticMoth
      StaticMoth
      Silver
      Joined: 22.05.2009 Posts: 2,642
      Again, there are different kinds of fish, so stats would help ...

      Unless he's super maniac kind of fish, they usually don't have the balls
      to make such a big raise with air - so you can fold in peace
      knowing that you're pretty much fucked here.

      I would only go broke if I hade the Q :spade: in my hand.

      Without that just give it to him, it's not a huge pot to fight over.

      And IF he doesn't have you beat on the flop, he still has a ton of outs and equity vs you unless he's a total monkey making a 1 out of 1000 play on you.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Backcushion,

      Against such a small stack I don't mind going broke there but it's very close. I often expect him to even raise there with worse hands like with only 9x. But the problem in this case would be if he has a spade in it, he would get pretty good equity against our QQ.

      However would be a lot better to have at least Q :spade: to get our money in, so if you like to avoid variance then just fold the hand and find a better spot to get it in against the fish.

      Just made a small calculation for you to understand how we do against a FD+TP:

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 52,525% 52,525% 0,000% 47,475% As9h
      Player 2: 47,475% 47,475% 0,000% 52,525% QhQc

      But usually you have to set a bigger range here and what would put us on even worse equity.

      With sets and etc:
      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 82,034% 80,174% 3,719% 16,107% TsTh, 99, 44, 22, As9h
      Player 2: 17,966% 16,107% 3,719% 80,174% QhQc

      Here you see the clear difference what should be fold for us.

      Best regards.