[NL2-NL10] AJs Squeeze RUSH NL25 MSS

    • thazar
      thazar
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      Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      MP3 ($47.21)
      CO ($30.58)
      Button ($19.08)
      Hero (SB) ($10.10)
      BB ($19)
      UTG ($45.63)
      UTG+1 ($15.92)
      MP1 ($46.49)
      MP2 ($24.29)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with J, A
      2 folds, MP1 bets $0.75, MP2 calls $0.75, MP3 calls $0.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4, 4 folds

      Total pot: $3.25 | Rake: $0


      the 3 people in the hands have similar stats around 14/11 (vpip/pfr), and I had a history of 2 3bets against MP1 and he folded both. Is it a good spot to squeeze?
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    • Gerv
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      Let me ask you this: What would you do if you get 4bet ?


      Best regards,
      Gerv
    • thazar
      thazar
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      I would have folded with those opponents but - I might have misunderstood the principle of a squeeze - isnt a squeeze when you bet with a possibly slightly lesser hand than normal with several opponents in the pot. In the hope of opponent 1 folding because he has people still acting behind him and the others folding because they are not getting the odds they were getting with the initial raise. Kind of a domino effect.

      btw I am not attempting to explain a squeeze to you lol but stating what I understand by a squeeze to see if I am correct. If it is that, it seemed like a good spot for it.

      but was it?
    • thazar
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      I just look in the glossary and the definition of squeeze and the requisites. the situation seem to check all the tick boxes. but maybe I am missing something :D
    • Gerv
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      A squeeze is just 3betting an openraiser who has a caller behind him ;)

      So as you would fold on a 4bet, you are essentially bluff3betting. Would you think that $4 (=40% of your ES) is a good sizing for this squeeze then?
    • thazar
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      Originally posted by Gerv
      A squeeze is just 3betting an openraiser who has a caller behind him ;)

      So as you would fold on a 4bet, you are essentially bluff3betting. Would you think that $4 (=40% of your ES) is a good sizing for this squeeze then?
      Definition
      A squeeze, or to put a squeeze on somebody, or a squeeze play, means to make a bluff in the first betting round in the form of a large raise after there has already been one raise and at least one call. Whereas the first player ideally folds, since he's now caught between two or more opponents and doesn't know what the players after him will do, the second player and all those after him often don't have strong enough hands to call a reraise and so will fold.

      If the reraise is called, it is still possible to win the pot in subsequent rounds with a continuation bet.

      Example:
      Player A raises by $4.
      Player B calls.
      Player C raises by $20 -> he squeezes.

      Prerequisites for a squeezeplay
      Your own image, the styles of the opposition, your relative position to them and the stack sizes are the important factors for a successful squeeze.
      A trivial ground rule is that a squeeze only makes sense if the opponents can fold. On the other hand, the range of the opposition, in particular that of the open raiser, must be large enough that he could hold a hand that he would immediately discard.
      It makes no sense to squeeze if the opposition is very loose or the raising player only raises a few hands, so that he will seldom fold them. Furthermore, the opposition must respect your reraises.
      it does say here that a squeeze is a bluff, and that it is a large raise. I am essentially learning about squeeze and feel like i am missing something :D

      Now for the flop, depending on the board and how many callers i get it would either be a c/f (give up) or a push

      So, in your opinion that was not a good spot for a squeeze? Is it because 3 callers are too many? Is it because with 11PFR in MP1, I do not get enough fold equity?
    • Gerv
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      I just think your sizing is a bit too high, if you sqz/fold you give up way too much money namely 40% of your ES.

      Furthermore the pot postflop would be ridicously high hence your push postflop would not achieve much FEQ

      - Gerv