[NL2-NL10] NL10RUSH AQs

    • Oly0909
      Oly0909
      Silver
      Joined: 08.06.2008 Posts: 843
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      SB ($10)
      BB ($14.47)
      UTG ($10.81)
      UTG+1 ($7.94)
      UTG+2 ($10.20)
      MP1 ($15.72)
      MP2 ($9.59)
      CO ($12.19)
      Hero ($15.51)

      Dealt to Hero Q:heart: A:heart:

      fold, fold, fold, MP1 raises to $0.35, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.35, fold, BB calls $0.25

      FLOP ($1.10) T:heart: 7:heart: 3:spade:

      BB checks, MP1 checks, Hero bets $1, BB folds, MP1 raises to $2.75, Hero raises to $6.50, MP1 raises to $15.37 (AI), Hero calls $8.66 (AI)

      TURN ($31.42) T:heart: 7:heart: 3:spade: 6:club:

      RIVER ($31.42) T:heart: 7:heart: 3:spade: 6:club: A:club:

      Hero shows Q:heart: A:heart:
      (Pre 48%, Flop 25.6%, Turn 15.9%)

      MP1 shows T:spade: T:diamond:
      (Pre 52%, Flop 74.4%, Turn 84.1%)

      MP1 wins $29.42

      What would be the right play here?
  • 5 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Oly0909,

      Since we could often be against a set here I'd just fold it after his raise, drawing for a flush against a set sometimes ain't the greatest since the board could easily pair.

      Best regards.
    • Oly0909
      Oly0909
      Silver
      Joined: 08.06.2008 Posts: 843
      Now, when you said that, it makes sense. If we can shove a set against a FD or possible flush, then it's probably not good idea to shove a FD against a set :f_confused: But I have 2 questions here.

      1. How can we know he is not on overpair, AT, 8 :heart: 9 :heart: , or something similar?

      2. If flop was T :heart: J :heart: 3 :spade: (gutshot added) would it be the same?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      1. How can we know he is not on overpair, AT, 8 :heart: 9 :heart: , or something similar?

      Most of his OPs he would bet there since he has to protect against any kind of draw and sets he often Check/Raises there. And 8h9h is way too rare situation and even with them I expect him to bet.

      2. If flop was T :heart: J :heart: 3 :spade: (gutshot added) would it be the same?

      There we would get a lot more equity against sets but true is that I wouldn't really go broke there either since:

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 34,747% 34,747% 0,000% 65,253% AhQh
      Player 2: 65,253% 65,253% 0,000% 34,747% JJ-TT, 33

      we only get 34,8% equity, so more likely maybe just Call and reevaluate turn.
    • Oly0909
      Oly0909
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      Joined: 08.06.2008 Posts: 843
      Originally posted by veriz
      Since most of his OPs he would raise preflop
      But he did raise preflop, and then check-raised flop with initiative. If he contibetted I would just call and reevaluate, but because of this strange play I thought he's pushing me off with some worse draw or even air (like AK), or maybe badly played AA, and thats why I 3-betted him. When he pushed then I thought that I could be against TT or 77, but it's $8.something in ~$30.00 pot, so I think even against TT, 77, AA range I can call.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Oly0909
      Originally posted by veriz
      Since most of his OPs he would raise preflop
      But he did raise preflop, and then check-raised flop with initiative. If he contibetted I would just call and reevaluate, but because of this strange play I thought he's pushing me off with some worse draw or even air (like AK), or maybe badly played AA, and thats why I 3-betted him. When he pushed then I thought that I could be against TT or 77, but it's $8.something in ~$30.00 pot, so I think even against TT, 77, AA range I can call.
      What I wanted to say is that he would bet with his OPs on such flop not Check/Raise since the board is too drawy. And you weren't the PFA so why should he think that you will bet there? He has to protect. And no you aren't getting good equity there:

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 28,485% 28,485% 0,000% 71,515% AhQh
      Player 2: 71,515% 71,515% 0,000% 28,485% AA, TT, 77, 33

      And more often I think he even has mostly sets there. So:

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 25,556% 25,556% 0,000% 74,444% AhQh
      Player 2: 74,444% 74,444% 0,000% 25,556% TT, 77, 33