[NL20-NL50] FD+ GS push flop 130bb deep?

    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.11.2008 Posts: 2,233
      iPoker - €0.50 NL - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      CO: €48.65
      BTN: €107.29
      Hero (SB): €66.28
      BB: €16.25
      UTG: €101.49 VP:21/PR:10/AFq:39 (160 hands)

      Hero posts SB €0.25, BB posts BB €0.50, CO posts DB €0.50

      Pre Flop: (€1.25) Hero has 8:diamond: 7:diamond:

      UTG raises to €1.50, CO calls €1.00, fold, Hero calls €1.25, fold

      Flop: (€5.00, 3 players) 4:diamond: 6:diamond: Q:heart:
      Hero checks, UTG bets €3.75, fold, Hero calls €3.75

      First off, should I fold pre with 87s in SB?
      Against AQ,KK+ I have 45% equity here on the flop. I suppose I can play for stack (i.e C/R shove). My question is if I C/R and get called and turn is blank what do I do?
      I also think that I can play passively as well since I have the odds to call.
  • 6 replies
    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.11.2008 Posts: 2,233
      Sorry guys just realized that I posted it in the NL 100-200 section.
      My apologies, if mod can move it to NL 25-50. Cheers


      *Edit by Bierbaer: moved.*
    • Bierbaer
      Bierbaer
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.05.2005 Posts: 7,989
      Preflop is close, vs two regs I think we can as well just fold the hand as it's very hard to play +EV vs them while being OOP.

      If the caller is a fish I'd overcall though.


      As played I like the c/c. UTGs range for cbetting is very strong (cbets into 2 opponents) so we can't expect to have foldequity. Yes, we have 45% potequity - but we're still an underdog. So I'd c/c due to odds and outs an reevaluate on the turn.

      If you c/r in a spot like this there's usually not much you can do but betting the turn.
      You generally have enough equity that it's no mistake to bet/call (FD+GS = 13 outs = ~28% equity).

      Checking the turn after checkraising doesn't make much sense because you can expect the opponent to bet himself anyway, so I'd rather take my chances of maybe having a little bit of foldequity and bet myself.
    • DeMarcohsp
      DeMarcohsp
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.06.2010 Posts: 1,975
      I think that fd+gs = 12 outs not 13 so a little less eq
    • Dublimax
      Dublimax
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.11.2008 Posts: 2,233
      9 (FD)+4 (GS) so I think Bierbaer was right.
    • erla777
      erla777
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.09.2009 Posts: 15
      FD + GS is 12 outs, because 1 gutshot card is necessary for FD :)
    • Bierbaer
      Bierbaer
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.05.2005 Posts: 7,989
      Oooops, sorry! DeMarcohsp is of course right: it's 12 outs, so ~26% equity. But we should still bet/call the turn.