[NL20-NL50] 25NL AKs

    • sootedAs
      sootedAs
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      Joined: 28.10.2010 Posts: 76
      Is this standard? :f_p:

      Villain is 24/15, AF 1.5, Agg% 31, 3bet 4.5 over 848 hands

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
      SB ($15.33)
      BB ($27.14)
      UTG ($8.55)
      UTG+1 ($25.23)
      Hero ($29.15)
      BTN ($21.10)

      Dealt to Hero A:spade: K:spade:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.55, BTN raises to $4.80, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $15.30, BTN raises to $21.10 (AI), Hero calls $5.80

      FLOP ($43.10) 9:club: 8:heart: 8:club:

      TURN ($43.10) 9:club: 8:heart: 8:club: A:club:

      RIVER ($43.10) 9:club: 8:heart: 8:club: A:club: 8:spade:
  • 6 replies
    • Hajler
      Hajler
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      Joined: 21.10.2008 Posts: 270
      Hello!

      If UTG+1 is a fish which I am assuming from the min-bet, the BTN(who seems to be a reg from your sample size, wtf stack size though) could raise with a pretty wide range as he knows you will be isolating the fish with weaker holdings, and will take the pot down preflop a lot.

      I think your raise to 15.30 might be a bit big, but otherwise this looks pretty standard, I would have played it the same.

      Hope it helps.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I would 3-bet to 12$ and then shove any board, although 15$ is also fine or if you want then you can also shove.
      Either way I think you shouldn´t fold there Aks
    • sootedAs
      sootedAs
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      Joined: 28.10.2010 Posts: 76
      But is it ok just because there is this minraise before me and he's expected to be 3betting light? What if there was no minraise? I mean...what should I be looking for to fold AK or QQ for that matter... 1vs1 I can't really see it, especially vs a reg who isnt playing like...14/12, 1.5% 3bet. Cause how can I just raise/fold AK or QQ preflop, and once I 4bet it, I usually have the pot odds to call vs QQ+, AK. Maybe OOP...but still, 3bet/fold, kinda hard to do.

      Sorry for turning it a bit into a strategy discussion :f_p:
    • Hajler
      Hajler
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      Joined: 21.10.2008 Posts: 270
      Hello again,

      You will often find yourself in tricky spots when you get 3-bet while holding AK/QQ. There is no simple answer like "always 4-bet/shove" or "always call" - you have to think about each situation individually based on stats/reads, position etc.

      I recommend you read these if you haven't already as they might shed some light on the topic:

      AK and QQ Preflop at the Low Limits (1) - Basic Ideas
      AK and QQ Preflop at the Low Limits (2) - Possible Lines
      AK and QQ Preflop at the Low Limits (3) - Your Opponents
      AK and QQ Preflop at the Low Limits (4) - Examples
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by sootedAs
      But is it ok just because there is this minraise before me and he's expected to be 3betting light? What if there was no minraise? I mean...what should I be looking for to fold AK or QQ for that matter... 1vs1 I can't really see it, especially vs a reg who isnt playing like...14/12, 1.5% 3bet. Cause how can I just raise/fold AK or QQ preflop, and once I 4bet it, I usually have the pot odds to call vs QQ+, AK. Maybe OOP...but still, 3bet/fold, kinda hard to do.

      Sorry for turning it a bit into a strategy discussion :f_p:
      well even if you just open on the co smt like 25%, bu would 3-bet you lighter than KK/AA, so most of the times you should 4-bet there AK for value and since he is shoving also smt like QQ/JJ/AK you have to call shove.
      Of course if player is total nit, you can raise/call pf AK/QQ and evaluate on the flop, but 24/15 with 4.5 3-bet isn´t really that type that you shouldn´t play stacks pf.
      Only reason you should b/f or b/c, is when you´re going to open utg and he 3-bets you, since then your range is tighter and his range for 3-betting is also tighter.
    • sootedAs
      sootedAs
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      Joined: 28.10.2010 Posts: 76
      I see... Thank you for your help :)