MSS Statistical Analysis Video Series by Subar

    • p0rkus
      p0rkus
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      This thread will be used in an upcomming MSS 3-part video series.
      It is a translation of the original Russian thread created by Subar.




      Subar:

      During the next week, Alexander (Ratatuj) and I will be making a video series dedicated to MSS statistical analysis
      Those who are interested should post their stats and graphs using the following guidelines:

      Please specify/upload -
      - Poker platform
      - Whether you play FR/SH - 30, 35, 40bb
      - Do you top-up and when? (e.g. from 25 - 35bb)
      - Graph for your current limit (1 month / 15k hands minimum)
      - Stats for you current limit (1 month / 15k hands minimum)
      - Standard yellow list from Holdem Manager
      - Graph for your next limit (if you have recently changed limits - 5k hands minimum
      - Your comments, potential leaks etc.

      The graph should show your EV as well as both showdown and non-showdown winnings.

      Important stats:

      VPIP / PFR / Winnings / EV (adjusted) / 3Bet / Fold to 3Bet / Call 3Bet / 4Bet
      Fold to 4Bet / Cold Call / General + specific steals / Fold SB/BB to steal /
      3Bet re-steal / W$SD / W$wSF / Aggression + frequency (all streets) /
      C-bet (all streets) / Steal Limped Pot / Success of aforementioned stats /
      Anything else (voluntary)

      Remove all tick marks and select 1 month in Hud Options > Additional Hud
      Filters

      Do the same for PT3 / Elephant (Not sure how it works there)
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    • p0rkus
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      2Cold4You:
      :diamond: FTP
      :diamond: FR 35bb
      :diamond: Auto top-up from 25-35bb
      :diamond: Graph (1 month: 20Khands)


      :diamond: Stats


      :diamond: Yellow List


      :diamond: Simple question: Either I am stupid, or extremely unlucky?

      I try to play ABC poker and I think that when I play more hands I will see
      good results - But I strongly think that I have some leaks somewhere,
      so I hope you can find them and point me in the right direction!

      Thanks in advance!
    • p0rkus
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      KOJI6ACEP

      Hi!

      - FTP NL50/100 (mix)
      - FR 35bb
      - Auto Top-up to 35bb
      - NL50 graph for August


      - NL50 stats for August


      - Yellow list


      - NL 100 graph since July


      - NL 100 Stats since July


      It would be interesting to hear your opinion. I was beating NL50 (4bb/100) in June.
      I was also beating it in July (but not as well). Something strange seems to be happening in August...
      I want to know if it's just a downswing or if I am playing badly. Thanks!
    • p0rkus
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      Nsk4erep:

      Hi! I play Rush 40bb without auto top-up.
      These are my stats for NL25 and NL50 since I have problems on both limits.
      NL25 = August
      NL50 = End of July - End of August

      I feel that I don't Steal and Re-steal as much as I should. I think that I
      keep getting bluffed out of small/medium pots. It feels like no one respects
      raises from MSS players in Rush. Open raising pocket pairs from early position is unprofitable because people like to call with high pocket pairs in
      position and then slowplay them. I'm thinking about either leaving Rush or
      taking up BSS. I would love to hear your comments on this. Thanks!

      NL25








      NL50






    • p0rkus
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      Donatic:

      Hi!

      - FTP
      - NL100 Rush FR
      - Auto top-up when I hit about 15-17bb
      - August graph



      August stats



      yellow list


      September graph


      September stats



      Red Line - I'm loosing too much non-showdown. I have been trying to keep it horizontal, but this doesn't last and it eventually drops, ending up in a downward staircase.

      Leaks I know I need to fix:
      Low 3Bet / High Fold to 3Bet / Weak blind protection (although I tend to 3Bet any two against aggressive blind stealers / Low C-bet success /
      A tendency to sometimes check/raise instead of C-betting, but rarely doing it on a bluff.

      I would be grateful for an analysis and some recommendations.
    • p0rkus
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      Zhargalm

      1. FTP

      2. FL 35bb

      3. Auto Top-Up 35bb

      4.


      5.




      6.


      7. I try to play in a standard manner (usually 16 tables). I hardly ever steal
      and rarely defend. My post-flop is suffering. There are probably some leaks
      that I have no idea about. I would like to get advice on where to go from
      here.
    • p0rkus
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      elmagico17

      - FTP
      - FR 35bb
      - Don't top-up
      - NL50 Graph for august


      NL50 Stats







      Nl100 August - September


      NL100 Stats





      I'm playing NL100 now. Leaks: maybe I'm opening very wide from middle-
      late position, postflop - as you can see the EV line is negative although I
      do try to play well. It would be nice to hear about the specifics of NL100.
      I'll be thankful for an analysis.
    • p0rkus
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      knyaz1988

      1. FTP
      2. FR 35bb
      3. Auto Top-up to 35bb

      4.

      5. Stats



      6. Yellow List


      I try to play ABC poker, but NL10 is just acting difficult. Constant problems
      with my redline. I would like to hear about my leaks.
    • p0rkus
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      BreakenHead

      1. FTP
      2. FR 35bb. Apart from standard games I also play CAP and shallow tables
      because there are plenty of fish there.
      3. Auto top-up is off, I rebuy when I hit 15bb
      4. NL 25 for August:


      5. Stats


      6. NL50 for August


      7. Stats


      8. Yellow List


      I'm trying to own NL50 for the third time, but every single time unexplained
      things keep happening and I keep failing. Either I don't hit the flop, or I keep getting coolers.
    • p0rkus
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      olegp1985

      1) FTP
      2) FR NL100 35bb
      3) Auto Top-Up 35bb
      4)

      5)

      6)


      Recently started grinding 16 tables. When conducting session reviews
      I noticed that I have plenty of mistakes. I think I have a small ATS, but I
      only try to steal in good situations (OPs with appropriate stats, it's -EV to
      steal from fish :-)). I feel that OPs sometimes bluff me out of pots. I employ
      strict table selection and I always try to sit so that I have position on fish.
      I'm interested in what leaks you may deduce from my stats.

      Thanks in advance!
    • p0rkus
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      Parion10

      1) FTP

      2) 40bb Rush Poker

      3) Auto top-up to 40bb

      4) NL100 graph over 2 weeks



      5) NL100 stats



      6) stats


      Only recently moved up to NL100, EV isn't bad, but I am a little concerned
      about my redline. I feel that I'm loosing alot of money on it. I play ~11/10,
      but I've seen several MSSers managing to play looser. I would like to
      hear more about LAG style in FR Rush Poker.
    • p0rkus
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      iranow22

      1) Bet356(iPoker)
      2) FR 30BB
      3) Yes, auto top-up to full (30BB) stack, when I drop down to 80% of my
      original buyin
      4) Graph(NL20$€₤, 30k hands, 23.07.2010-26.07.2010, 11.08.2010-today NL20€₤ (moved to NL50$ 2 days ago)):



      5) stats:




      6) yellow list


      Not sure what kind of questions one can ask with a winrate of 4.5bb/100,
      but anyway: what do I need to do to keep this winrate on NL50?
      Whats the recommended bankroll for NL50/NL100 considering nonWD+WDwon? I play 9 (sometimes 12) tables and I don't really like
      moving down limits (although it's gradually happening on bet356)

      Possible leaks: High 3Bet, C-bet flop, low squeeze, check/raise.

      Also, what's the reason for my negative NL20€ game: is it just dispersion
      or am I just stereotyping myself based on my small sample size (although
      when I am playing I don't exactly know which table is which)?
    • p0rkus
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      Vilfry

      1. FTP
      2. FR Rush NL400
      3. No Auto Top-up
      4.

      5.


      6.


      Beat NL200 fine, can't say the same thing about NL400. Although there
      are plenty of fish, I had to tighten up a bit.
    • p0rkus
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      progamer001

      1. FTP
      2. 40bb, NL5, FR, RushPoker
      3. Rebuy @ ~30bb to 37-38bb
      4. 16k hands graph

      5. Stats

      6. List


      Can't decide on a steal range, don't defend my blinds enough (also can't
      decide on a range here)... Currently playing breakeven for some time
      and I don't know why that is. Please help.
    • p0rkus
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      BJpoker7

      Hey everyone!
      1) FTP
      2) 40bb FR Rush NL100-200
      3) Rebuy at 15bb (15-25 I play SSS + loose steals. How acceptable is
      this in today's Rush poker games?)
      4)
      NL100 Graph

      5) Nl100 Stats


      6) NL100 YL

      7) NL 200 with stats



      Only recently moved over to cash games from 9max SNGs where I built my
      roll. When I tried NL200 I noticed a large increase in aggression from
      opponents on later streets and a large amount of semi-bluff pushes
      compared to NL 100. I got bluffes constantly! When I became anal-tight
      I started playing breakeven. I ran into problems when playing 99-JJ (I can't bring
      myself to call a push on the turn on a board with one overcard against an
      unknow). No idea what to do with AQ-AJ against a raiser with 7-17 PFR, you can't
      3bet for value while 3bet/fold would be too weak, and CC isn't something you
      do in MSS. What can you CC when playing MSS? What bet sizing should you use
      when 3betting АК, QQ , КК+, and in the blinds?
      I watched the basic MSS videos (part 1 and 2), does all of this apply to Rush?
      (3betting is obviously arguable) How to play AK in a 3bet pot with a 3 low card flop
      with and without position?
      What's an acceptable winrate in Rush? (I believe that a good winrate in rush is that
      of normal tables divided by 4 - so 2/3bb/100 is good)
      Why is FR Rush full of morons who constantly call 3bets hoping to hit a set?
      (or for whatever reason) and go all-in against my AK with third pair!!!!!!!!
      What examples of stupidity did Subar notice before he left Rush poker for good?
      My cash game education - A couple of vids from Igor & Alexander, plenty of
      questions, I can't even remember most of them now.
      I really want to see some MSS stats analysed!!! It's a fantastic idea!
      Thank you very much.
    • p0rkus
      p0rkus
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      Vinsentttt

      - FTP
      - NL10 35bb FR
      - Auto top-up 25-35bb
      - Graph (my last 26k hands)


      - Stats



      - List


      The red line is stealing all my profit! It's as if it's being influenced by gravity
      itself. It's possible to keep it from falling at times, but not for long.
      Or maybe it's impossible at NL10? Nonetheless - 60k hands and
      I'm breakeven. I hope that you can find my leaks and show me the light
      at the end of the tunnel!
    • p0rkus
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      alibek2009

      (originally posted in a different thread)

      Could you please analyse my graph/stats and give me some advice?.
      I want to increase my winrate but during the last couple thousand hands
      I am constantly breakeven, even though I watch videos. BTW, after the
      last video I started playing 14/14.





    • p0rkus
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      dima145

      1 FTP
      2 NL50 35bb FR
      3 Rebuy from 25 to 33-35bb
      4 Graph (my last 20k hands)





    • p0rkus
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      Preparat

      1. FTP
      2. NL25 RUSH 40bb FR
      3. Auto top-up to 30bb







      I get the feeling that I should steal, resteal, and 3bet looser. I'm not
      conifdent in my postflop game
    • p0rkus
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      B0uncer

      FTP
      FR 35bb
      Rebuy ~ 30bb











      I'm not using BRM. I play on a limit if I can play 10-12 tables, it's really hard
      for me to stop playing after loosing more than 3BI, I chase my looses and
      I can't stop - something that eventually leads to me loosing half of my
      bankroll. I made about 5 attempts during the last 3 months to cling on to
      NL100 - this didn't work, I couldn't survive longer than 2-3 sessions.
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