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This thread will be used in an upcomming MSS 3-part video series.
It is a translation of the original Russian thread created by Subar.
During the next week, Alexander (Ratatuj) and I will be making a video series dedicated to MSS statistical analysis
Those who are interested should post their stats and graphs using the following guidelines:
Please specify/upload -
- Poker platform
- Whether you play FR/SH - 30, 35, 40bb
- Do you top-up and when? (e.g. from 25 - 35bb)
- Graph for your current limit (1 month / 15k hands minimum)
- Stats for you current limit (1 month / 15k hands minimum)
- Standard yellow list from Holdem Manager
- Graph for your next limit (if you have recently changed limits - 5k hands minimum
- Your comments, potential leaks etc.
The graph should show your EV as well as both showdown and non-showdown winnings.
VPIP / PFR / Winnings / EV (adjusted) / 3Bet / Fold to 3Bet / Call 3Bet / 4Bet
Fold to 4Bet / Cold Call / General + specific steals / Fold SB/BB to steal /
3Bet re-steal / W$SD / W$wSF / Aggression + frequency (all streets) /
C-bet (all streets) / Steal Limped Pot / Success of aforementioned stats /
Anything else (voluntary)
Remove all tick marks and select 1 month in Hud Options > Additional Hud
Do the same for PT3 / Elephant (Not sure how it works there)
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Auto top-up from 25-35bb
Graph (1 month: 20Khands)
Simple question: Either I am stupid, or extremely unlucky?
I try to play ABC poker and I think that when I play more hands I will see
good results - But I strongly think that I have some leaks somewhere,
so I hope you can find them and point me in the right direction!
- FTP NL50/100 (mix)
- FR 35bb
- Auto Top-up to 35bb
- NL50 graph for August
- NL50 stats for August
- Yellow list
- NL 100 graph since July
- NL 100 Stats since July
It would be interesting to hear your opinion. I was beating NL50 (4bb/100) in June.
I was also beating it in July (but not as well). Something strange seems to be happening in August...
I want to know if it's just a downswing or if I am playing badly. Thanks!
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Hi! I play Rush 40bb without auto top-up.
These are my stats for NL25 and NL50 since I have problems on both limits.
NL25 = August
NL50 = End of July - End of August
I feel that I don't Steal and Re-steal as much as I should. I think that I
keep getting bluffed out of small/medium pots. It feels like no one respects
raises from MSS players in Rush. Open raising pocket pairs from early position is unprofitable because people like to call with high pocket pairs in
position and then slowplay them. I'm thinking about either leaving Rush or
taking up BSS. I would love to hear your comments on this. Thanks!
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- NL100 Rush FR
- Auto top-up when I hit about 15-17bb
- August graph
Red Line - I'm loosing too much non-showdown. I have been trying to keep it horizontal, but this doesn't last and it eventually drops, ending up in a downward staircase.
Leaks I know I need to fix:
Low 3Bet / High Fold to 3Bet / Weak blind protection (although I tend to 3Bet any two against aggressive blind stealers / Low C-bet success /
A tendency to sometimes check/raise instead of C-betting, but rarely doing it on a bluff.
I would be grateful for an analysis and some recommendations.
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2. FL 35bb
3. Auto Top-Up 35bb
7. I try to play in a standard manner (usually 16 tables). I hardly ever steal
and rarely defend. My post-flop is suffering. There are probably some leaks
that I have no idea about. I would like to get advice on where to go from
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- FR 35bb
- Don't top-up
- NL50 Graph for august
Nl100 August - September
I'm playing NL100 now. Leaks: maybe I'm opening very wide from middle-
late position, postflop - as you can see the EV line is negative although I
do try to play well. It would be nice to hear about the specifics of NL100.
I'll be thankful for an analysis.
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2) FR NL100 35bb
3) Auto Top-Up 35bb
Recently started grinding 16 tables. When conducting session reviews
I noticed that I have plenty of mistakes. I think I have a small ATS, but I
only try to steal in good situations (OPs with appropriate stats, it's -EV to
steal from fish :-)). I feel that OPs sometimes bluff me out of pots. I employ
strict table selection and I always try to sit so that I have position on fish.
I'm interested in what leaks you may deduce from my stats.
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2) 40bb Rush Poker
3) Auto top-up to 40bb
4) NL100 graph over 2 weeks
5) NL100 stats
Only recently moved up to NL100, EV isn't bad, but I am a little concerned
about my redline. I feel that I'm loosing alot of money on it. I play ~11/10,
but I've seen several MSSers managing to play looser. I would like to
hear more about LAG style in FR Rush Poker.
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2) FR 30BB
3) Yes, auto top-up to full (30BB) stack, when I drop down to 80% of my
4) Graph(NL20$€₤, 30k hands, 23.07.2010-26.07.2010, 11.08.2010-today NL20€₤ (moved to NL50$ 2 days ago)):
6) yellow list
Not sure what kind of questions one can ask with a winrate of 4.5bb/100,
but anyway: what do I need to do to keep this winrate on NL50?
Whats the recommended bankroll for NL50/NL100 considering nonWD+WDwon? I play 9 (sometimes 12) tables and I don't really like
moving down limits (although it's gradually happening on bet356)
Possible leaks: High 3Bet, C-bet flop, low squeeze, check/raise.
Also, what's the reason for my negative NL20€ game: is it just dispersion
or am I just stereotyping myself based on my small sample size (although
when I am playing I don't exactly know which table is which)?
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2) 40bb FR Rush NL100-200
3) Rebuy at 15bb (15-25 I play SSS + loose steals. How acceptable is
this in today's Rush poker games?)
5) Nl100 Stats
6) NL100 YL
7) NL 200 with stats
Only recently moved over to cash games from 9max SNGs where I built my
roll. When I tried NL200 I noticed a large increase in aggression from
opponents on later streets and a large amount of semi-bluff pushes
compared to NL 100. I got bluffes constantly! When I became anal-tight
I started playing breakeven. I ran into problems when playing 99-JJ (I can't bring
myself to call a push on the turn on a board with one overcard against an
unknow). No idea what to do with AQ-AJ against a raiser with 7-17 PFR, you can't
3bet for value while 3bet/fold would be too weak, and CC isn't something you
do in MSS. What can you CC when playing MSS? What bet sizing should you use
when 3betting АК, QQ , КК+, and in the blinds?
I watched the basic MSS videos (part 1 and 2), does all of this apply to Rush?
(3betting is obviously arguable) How to play AK in a 3bet pot with a 3 low card flop
with and without position?
What's an acceptable winrate in Rush? (I believe that a good winrate in rush is that
of normal tables divided by 4 - so 2/3bb/100 is good)
Why is FR Rush full of morons who constantly call 3bets hoping to hit a set?
(or for whatever reason) and go all-in against my AK with third pair!!!!!!!!
What examples of stupidity did Subar notice before he left Rush poker for good?
My cash game education - A couple of vids from Igor & Alexander, plenty of
questions, I can't even remember most of them now.
I really want to see some MSS stats analysed!!! It's a fantastic idea!
Thank you very much.
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- NL10 35bb FR
- Auto top-up 25-35bb
- Graph (my last 26k hands)
The red line is stealing all my profit! It's as if it's being influenced by gravity
itself. It's possible to keep it from falling at times, but not for long.
Or maybe it's impossible at NL10? Nonetheless - 60k hands and
I'm breakeven. I hope that you can find my leaks and show me the light
at the end of the tunnel!
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(originally posted in a different thread)
Could you please analyse my graph/stats and give me some advice?.
I want to increase my winrate but during the last couple thousand hands
I am constantly breakeven, even though I watch videos. BTW, after the
last video I started playing 14/14.
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Rebuy ~ 30bb
I'm not using BRM. I play on a limit if I can play 10-12 tables, it's really hard
for me to stop playing after loosing more than 3BI, I chase my looses and
I can't stop - something that eventually leads to me loosing half of my
bankroll. I made about 5 attempts during the last 3 months to cling on to
NL100 - this didn't work, I couldn't survive longer than 2-3 sessions.