[NL2-NL10] Aq

    • Utahmar
      Utahmar
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      Full Tilt Poker
      No Limit Holdem Ring game
      Blinds: $0.10/$0.25
      9 players
      Converter

      Stack sizes:
      UTG: $28.35
      UTG+1: $10.05
      Utahmar: $4.65
      MP2: $3.75
      MP3: $11.90
      CO: $10.60
      Button: $10.70
      SB: $6.60
      BB: $10

      Pre-flop: (9 players) Utahmar is MP1 with A Q
      2 folds, Utahmar raises to $1, 5 folds, BB calls $0.75 (pot was $1.35).

      Flop: T J 5 ($2.1, 2 players)
      BB checks, Utahmar checks.

      Turn: 6 ($2.1, 2 players)
      BB bets $2, Utahmar folds.
      Uncalled bets: $2 returned to BB.

      Results:
      Final pot: $2.1


      Decided check behind on draw heavy, and probably villain hitted board
  • 10 replies
    • frzl
      frzl
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      i will stick with it: it´s just wrong to check behind even these kind of boards when you are heads up and pfa
    • xylere
      xylere
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      yeah, totally agree with frzl.. I don`t remeber myself checking behind in HU situations) besides, you have some outs... I am pretty much sure your overcards are live and you also have gutshot outs. Most probably he just bluffed you out on turn...
    • Berliner1982
      Berliner1982
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      Why do you check behind here, when in the other hand where you had AK and the board was Qxx make a Cbet in position, when you have more outs here in this hand?
    • Utahmar
      Utahmar
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      T,J 2 cards i think in caller range. I guess that's wrong thinking ...
    • xylere
      xylere
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      hmm, at least it seems strange to me) following the logic if you play against opp. who has any two in his calling range - you will have to check every missed flop... You can play profitable against the range as well... (meaning that your equity is positive against his estimated range or you think it is positive)
      But I don`t think it`s correct just to pick up two cards from calling range and be afraid of them.

      Pokerstove:

      if his calling range is 99-77,AQs-ATs,KTs+,AQo-ATo,KJo+ you are getting just enough odds to push... 1:1.5 and 1:1.5
    • Utahmar
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      I experinced they call, more likely check/raise any pairs they find after flop ( even any pocket ).
      I dont wanna protect my play, i got check raised quite many times.
      Will try to cbet more.
      On Qxx board its only 1 card that could give the opponent a pair. Here i think, if im first to act, i would have made a cbet.
      Im getting overly suspicous i guess on checks before me.
    • xylere
      xylere
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      Well, If you feel your opponent likes check-raising - just push...
    • Berliner1982
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      Originally posted by Utahmar
      Im getting overly suspicous i guess on checks before me.
      You should work on this, thats a leak.
      If you get check/raised, make yourself a note with what he did that. Even if he has a pair on such a board like this hand, you still have 7 Outs to hit. And you don´t know if he has anything. If you check behind so often you get exploited. If you fold after you got check-raised to often, they will do it more often, even with worse hands then yours.
    • Utahmar
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      After a preflop raise, is it a big mistake to push as cbet instead of 2/3 pot ? This way theres no checkraise ... And save myself to make mistake on turn..
      I know this way maybe better hands will call ... answered myself
    • Berliner1982
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      Its a big mistake with the initative to check behind on a board what might give you 7 Outs for the best hand in a heads up situation, where you also have fold equity in position. ;)

      If you make a 2/3 Pot Cbet or push all-in directly depends on the ratio between the pot and the rest of your stack.