[NL2-NL10] NL4 - 99 in multiway pot

    • DoigteurFou
      DoigteurFou
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.08.2007 Posts: 1,529
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $4,96
      BB:
      $5,01
      UTG1:
      $5
      UTG2:
      $2,87
      MP1:
      $4,83
      MP2:
      $10,72
      MP3:
      $22,26
      Hero:
      $5,69
      BU:
      $15,25

      0,02/0,04 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant.Base 0.94 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 9:heart: , 9:diamond:
      UTG1 folds, UTG2 calls $0,04, MP1 calls $0,04, MP2 calls $0,04, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $0,24, BU calls $0,24, 3 folds, MP1 calls $0,20, MP2 calls $0,20.

      Flop: ($1,06) T:diamond: , 7:heart: , 3:spade: (4 players)
      MP1 checks, MP2 bets $0,04, Hero calls $0,04, BU calls $0,04, MP1 calls $0,04.

      Turn: ($1,22) T:club: (4 players)
      MP1 checks, MP2 bets $0,12, Hero calls $0,12, BU calls $0,12, MP1 calls $0,12.

      River: ($1,70) K:spade: (4 players)
      MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Hero checks, BU bets $0,32, 2 folds, Hero calls $0,32.

      Final Pot: $2,34

      A lot of players so I played my hand passively coldcalling. The turn is good for me. The river is dangerous but given the odds i chose the showdown. Good or bad long-term idea?
  • 5 replies
    • fryandspicy
      fryandspicy
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.05.2010 Posts: 440
      Preflop you can just limp as well because of all the calling stations in the hand here. You won't be able to thin the field enough to make a raise worthwile preflop, and nines play well in a multiway flop anway.

      Flop and turn you can call and try and hit your set because the opponents behind you are so passive, on the river you need to ask yourself how often you are ahead here against 4 opponents. I think almost all the time someone will have a ten or a king so you should fold.
    • DoigteurFou
      DoigteurFou
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      Joined: 16.08.2007 Posts: 1,529
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      I think almost all the time someone will have a ten or a king so you should fold.
      2.02 over 0.32 times? I only have to win 1 over 6.3 times to get my money in, that's the reason why I called. But I think you are right about it.
    • fryandspicy
      fryandspicy
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      Joined: 27.05.2010 Posts: 440
      Yeah, you need to be ahead 13% of the time for the call to be profitable, but i don't think you will be. If BU had a marginal hand here he wouldn't bet it. He can only be betting a bluff or a very strong hand here, and isn't bluffing 13% of the time into 3 opponents I don't think.
    • DoigteurFou
      DoigteurFou
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      Joined: 16.08.2007 Posts: 1,529
      Precisely I saw him do this kind of moves on a few hands before, that's why I called (and won). I posted the hand without this comment to see if this line could be playable against a "normal" player. I think you are totally right and I will forget it in the future (unless a handjudge says that it is playable, but I don't think).
    • Bierbaer
      Bierbaer
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.05.2005 Posts: 7,989
      Preflop the raise is fine, it's basically for value - 99 is a strong hand, it even dominates their limping ranges.

      On the flop I'd also call the minbet, but if I face any more aggression my plan is to just fold because there are so many opponents in the hand.
      The call is basically for odds and outs since we have 2 outs to make a set and additionally we have some backdoorstraights.


      On the turn I'm definitely folding. We still only have 2 outs but now we only get ~11:1 odds (compared to ~25:1 on the flop), so we don't have the odds to call.

      As played on the river: fold! What do you expect he's betting there expect for Tx?