[NL2-NL10] NL4 QJs on the BTN

    • BigAl123456
      BigAl123456
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.07.2010 Posts: 4,080
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $9.16
      BB:
      $4.06
      UTG2:
      $4
      MP1:
      $1.62
      MP2:
      $4.15
      MP3:
      $4.2
      CO:
      $4
      Hero:
      $4.06

      0.02/0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant 0.90 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with Q:spade: , J:spade:
      4 folds, CO raises to $0.12, Hero calls $0.12, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($0.30) 9:club: , 7:heart: , 6:heart: (2 players)
      CO bets $0.21, Hero calls $0.21.

      Turn: ($0.72) 3:club: (2 players)
      CO bets $0.51, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $1.23

      Thought I would float and pick up the pot o a :heart: or overcard turn.
  • 4 replies
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,


      That would only applies if there was ever a chance of him check/folding the turn. What do you think a 8/5 player has in his range when he decides to c-bet 2/3 on one of the most awful boards you can imagine for the preflop raiser? Now how many of these hands actually do check/fold the turn?


      Hope it helps.
    • Alficor1
      Alficor1
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.06.2010 Posts: 7,291
      I'd fold pre tbh.. against such a nit, your hand is a flip at best and very often you're dominated or completly murdered.
    • MaestroOfZerg
      MaestroOfZerg
      Bronze
      Joined: 17.11.2008 Posts: 5,510
      Hi,


      I'm fine with the preflop call. The "avoid calling with potentially dominated hands preflop" strategy is only a compromise made by instructors to keep beginners out of trouble as much as possible. The goal is to become good enough to outgrow these compromises by flawless logic.

      Being dominated is only a concern if you can't get away when your top pair is no good. Here since villain's range is fairly easy to read (if he bets the flop on an ugly board or ever 2nd barrels the turn you're in trouble unless you have good equity), the only thing stopping you from making a disciplined fold if needed is your willpower.

      The flip side is that at small stakes these players aren't good enough to fold TPTK/overpairs even when confronted with extreme aggression, so if you ever make a hand good enough to crack their premiums you'll get their stack. QJs can make two pairs, trips, straights, flushes. It's a prime candidate to take a shot at CO's range. Also it's possible CO is a bit lighter than usual when opening from late position, so if you flop a pair, call a c-bet and he checks the turn, chances are you're ahead.


      Hope it helps.
    • mirelbogdan
      mirelbogdan
      Bronze
      Joined: 13.12.2010 Posts: 15
      Study the 8% of his range. Fold flop.