[NL2-NL10] NL400SH: Scare cards hits on the river

    • Timor83
      Timor83
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      Joined: 08.06.2007 Posts: 2,793
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      Position:
      Stack
      MP2:
      $527.86
      Hero:
      $418

      2/4 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.7 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 8:spade: , 8:diamond:
      MP2 raises to $14.00, 3 folds, Hero calls $12.00, BB folds.

      Flop: ($32.00) 8:club: , 5:diamond: , 2:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP2 bets $21, Hero raises to $60.00, MP2 calls $39.00.

      Turn: ($152.00) 4:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $100, MP2 calls $100.00.

      River: ($352.00) Q:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP2 bets $244.00, Hero calls $244.

      Final Pot: $840.00

      Very unpleasant river, and an even more unpleasant all in bet from Villain. What's the correct play here?
  • 4 replies
    • degnic
      degnic
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      Joined: 06.02.2007 Posts: 3,953
      I think you should check/raise him bigger on flop (like 85$ or so) and also bet bigger on turn (if you had check/raised bigger on flop and he called, turn potsize would be 202$ where you could bet 180$ or so, or maybe even push because you are pot commited with 180$ bet anyway) This would make river decission easier aswell. I think check/call is the best line for river.
    • Peter87
      Peter87
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      Joined: 05.04.2006 Posts: 13,565
      I think you should check/raise him bigger on flop (like 85$ or so) and also bet bigger on turn (if you had check/raised bigger on flop and he called, turn potsize would be 202$ where you could bet 180$ or so, or maybe even push because you are pot commited with 180$ bet anyway)


      yes i think so, too.
    • SonicXT
      SonicXT
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      Joined: 15.06.2007 Posts: 4,736
      The flop reraise is ok I think, you're playing short handed so the odds of villain having 2 :diamond: are a bit lower and you can try to get more value out of your set. I'd still reraise to at least 70 though.
      However, when the turn shows another :club: , you know that there are many scare cards possible on the river (any club, diamond, 3 ... maybe also any A, 6 and 7)
      So here, I'd have bet pot, perhaps even a bit over the pot (150-175 $)
      Even if he calls then 125 $ and when he raises you allin, knowing he's probably got very little fold equity, you know you're beat and can still fold.
    • Peter87
      Peter87
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      Joined: 05.04.2006 Posts: 13,565
      you can never ever fold against a turn push.