[NL20-NL50] is he slow playing?

    • daisuke3823
      daisuke3823
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.02.2008 Posts: 8,321
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      party poker
      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $37.72
      SB (Hero):
      $22.81
      BB:
      $26.83
      UTG1:
      $6.75
      UTG2:
      $24.50
      MP1:
      $25.00
      MP2:
      $25.77
      MP3:
      $25.70
      CO:
      $43.21


      Preflop: Hero is SB with J, J.
      UTG1 folds, UTG2 calls $0.25, MP1 raises to $1.25, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.15, BB raises to $2.50, UTG2 folds, MP1 calls $1.25, Hero calls $1.25.

      Flop: ($7.75) 3, A, K (3 players)
      Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks.

      Turn: ($7.75) 2 (3 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $1.00, MP1 folds, Hero calls $1.00.

      River: ($9.75) J (2 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $4.63, Hero raises to $10.00, BB raises to $23.33, Hero calls $9.31.

      Final Pot: $52.39.

      BB

      HandsVPIP% PFR% 3Bet%
      40 27.5 12.5 6.7

      Agg Agg% Flop Agg% Turn Agg% River Agg%
      3 40          40           50         25

      my VPIP is 14/9 and tight.


      how should I play this hand? on the turn. he bet so small. call or fold? I could not raise.
      if he has KK or AA, I am drawing dead,even if he has AK, I cannot call for the out of J ? or he can have TT or QQ and try to take pot?
      and he 3 bets preflop . anyway I called
      and on the river,I hit set,and raised ,but he bets the half pot,now I dont think he had TT or QQ.
      and possibility that he was slow playing AA or KK is high now,
      so I just should have called on the river?
      after all,he went all in, and maybe if he has AK one time out of 5,I can call?
      on the river,do you think he had AA or KK for more than 50 % ?
  • 4 replies
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,667
      I play it the same way you do, except I bet/call myself on the river since we want to get called by worse or induce something from AK (we dont want AK to check behind, fearing a straight).

      On the turn I also call the small bet since we get 8:1, villain sometimes checks down with 99/TT etc and - when we do hit our J (8% of the time) we are sure to get more $ from AK type hands.

      If the flop was AJ4, would you fold, fearing set over set? No. You would try to get all your money in as you likely have the best hand.

      Villains stats are not so super tight that you can just give him range of AA.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I think he rather his his QT or JJ than slowplaying AK/AA/KK
      I would personally just c/c river to gain information what hands he is min-raising pf and then what hands going to bet river. That information seems to me more valuable than going to river c/r
    • Tim64
      Tim64
      Black
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,667
      I think he rather his his QT or JJ than slowplaying AK/AA/KK


      JJ is unlikely ;)

      If villain is not a reg, the $ may be better than the info, since he likely just goes bust and leaves the table b4 we can use the info.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by Tim64
      I think he rather his his QT or JJ than slowplaying AK/AA/KK


      JJ is unlikely ;)

      If villain is not a reg, the $ may be better than the info, since he likely just goes bust and leaves the table b4 we can use the info.
      yeah, didn´t notice hero had there JJ, thought he had AJ
      Then going for c/r on the river is fine. We should be ahead and he can easily have there AJ/AK himself, so we can´t really fold