[NL20-NL50] NL25 SH AA vs 2 big fish

    • justkyle88
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      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
      SB ($31.03)
      BB ($9.58)
      UTG ($10.39)
      Hero ($31.59)
      CO ($12.87)
      BTN ($9.93)

      Dealt to Hero A:spade: A:club:

      fold, Hero raises to $1, fold, fold, SB calls $0.90, BB raises to $4, Hero calls $3, SB calls $3

      FLOP ($12) 9:diamond: 5:club: Q:diamond:

      SB checks, BB bets $5.58 (AI), Hero raises to $13.25, SB raises to $27.03 (AI), Hero calls $13.78

      TURN ($71.64) 9:diamond: 5:club: Q:diamond: 6:heart:

      RIVER ($71.64) 9:diamond: 5:club: Q:diamond: 6:heart: 5:diamond:
  • 11 replies
    • Hajler
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      Hello!

      I don't think you should post the results as it takes away from the evaluating process.

      Preflop I would 4-bet, as calling just invites SB to setmine/suckout with whatever crap he is calling with.

      As played I would just shove flop, as I can't see myself folding AA against 2 fish. Obviously you aren't folding after putting in half your stack when SB shoves.
    • justkyle88
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      I don't think calling pre is to bad because I keep two fish and I'm pretty much only vsing one opponent + I'll be IP for the whole hand.

      Flop is to plan to bet 1/2 effective stack size to get it in asap.

      And yer results are removed. I was in a rush :f_biggrin:
    • falcone1983
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      Given the stacks, calling the 3bet is ok. If SB and BB were reversed, it would be horrible.

      Get it in on any flop obv.
    • Kaitz20
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      BB is going with his stack pf, so question is if you should consider slowplaying to keep in also Sb
      I think Id´feel more happy if I´d win BB 10$ than loose my stack, since SB hit his set or smt.
      So I´d click it back to 7$ and if SB decides to join the party I at least know that I tried to protect my hand. HU you have around 80%+ equity 3-way it drops to 66%

      Hand Equity Wins Ties
      AA 65.95% 649,704,132 3,428,676
      QQ 17.72% 173,771,424 3,428,676
      55, KTs, 9Ts, 44 16.33% 160,038,648 3,428,676

      Question is, if you want to take that risk or not :)
    • justkyle88
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      I'm not to worried about the $10 guy.
      I loss $10 but win $30. I'm up $20 for the hand.

      Plus I really don't think SB has PP to often.
      Calling there twice he can have a huge range. So something like this?

      And we can even widen the PPs if we want.

      Hand 0: 13.174% { 99+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, J9s+, T9s, ATo+, KJo+, QTo+, JTo, T9o }
      Hand 1: 72.105% { AA }
      Hand 2: 14.721% { 88+, ATs+, KQs, AKo }
    • Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by justkyle88
      I'm not to worried about the $10 guy.
      I loss $10 but win $30. I'm up $20 for the hand.

      Plus I really don't think SB has PP to often.
      Calling there twice he can have a huge range. So something like this?

      And we can even widen the PPs if we want.

      Hand 0: 13.174% { 99+, A9s+, KTs+, QTs+, J9s+, T9s, ATo+, KJo+, QTo+, JTo, T9o }
      Hand 1: 72.105% { AA }
      Hand 2: 14.721% { 88+, ATs+, KQs, AKo }
      I think Sb flatting range isn´t really that big and if you don´t mind suckout with aces, then call pf is fine. You´re just not really getting away postflop if Sb flops good draw and get there or hit two pair+
      I would be personally happier winning 80%+ 10$ than have 65-70% winning 40$, but loosing 35% my stack, since SB won´t really put it all-in unless he has flop I think at least 20-30% equity, although with tp he might also just shove.
    • justkyle88
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      So 4-bet to BB's stack and go from there?
    • Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by justkyle88
      So 4-bet to BB's stack and go from there?
      I woudl likely 4-bet, but to 7$, if then SB calls and BB shoves we both are calling and then I can b/c postflop 95% of flops
    • justkyle88
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      Why only $7, these guys will call much bigger, so fishy.
    • Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by justkyle88
      Why only $7, these guys will call much bigger, so fishy.
      if you make it 10$, then SB might easily fold smt like J9s, AT or whatever he called first place, so I'´d rather make it small to gove him option also join the party. If you think he is calling all of his range 10$, then that amount is also fine. BB is going anyway with his hand, so you don´t have to worry getting his money.
    • justkyle88
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      OK, cheers. Makes more sense now :)

      Thanks for everyone who posted.