[NL20-NL50] NL 25, AKo, TPTK 3way 240BB deep

    • oedipa
      oedipa
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      saw flop

      SB ($18.90)
      BB ($48.56)
      UTG ($50) unknow, 4tabling reg
      Hero (MP) ($59.40)
      Button ($63.07) 69/22; 3-bet 15; 40 hands, 1tabling fish

      Preflop: Hero is MP with K, A
      UTG bets $1.10, Hero calls $1.10, Button calls $1.10, 2 folds

      Flop: ($3.90) 3, A, 9 (3 players)
      UTG checks, Hero checks, Button bets $2.65, 1 fold, Hero raises to $7.25, Button raises to $15, Hero calls $7.75

      Turn: ($33.90) J (2 players)
      Hero checks, Button bets $18, Hero raises to $43.25 (All-In), Button calls $25.25

      River: ($120.40) 5 (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Total pot: $120.40 | Rake: $3

      I don't 3bet pre because I don't want to isolate myself against better hands. Sometimes I do it, but now I felt like calling was better :)
      The fish was agressive so I let him do the work for me.
      The min reraise on flop isn't very nice, but I was decided to go with the hand against him :)
      I put villain on Ax and sets. Against that range I am doing fine :)
      would you change something? Did I overplay the hand?
      I didn't know what would I do, if the second villain check/raised. Should I call of fold?
      thank you for advices :)
  • 6 replies
    • franeczek
      franeczek
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      I think that you overplayed that hand.
      I would just call him down. There is no reason to raise him on that flop cause you isolate yourself on better hands and your equity is really poor agains range 33,99 Ak, doubt that such a huge fish overplay Ax like AQ,AJ so badly.
      On turn you beat only AQ that he doesn't have there that offten.
      Just call him down to avoid though decision.
    • falcone1983
      falcone1983
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      The only reason not to 3bet this preflop is to allow the fish in the hand (and hopefully induce a squeeze). So it's okay, but not for the reason you mentioned.

      Not betting this flop after UTG checks is bad. Get value asap.

      All the rest is very hard to comment on without having played with this guy. Against some agressive fishy types, it's okay (they have any Ax here, and probably slowplay sets). Against most players though, it's hardcore overplayed 200bb deep.

      BTW, if you check, BU bets and UTG raises, you can probably fold.
    • oedipa
      oedipa
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      Well I played this one hand a few hands before against him :)

      saw flop | saw showdown

      BB ($29.30)
      UTG ($49.16)
      MP ($25.59)
      Hero (Button) ($50.43)
      SB ($62.18)

      Preflop: Hero is Button with 2, 4
      1 fold, MP bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2.50, SB calls $2.40, 2 folds

      Flop: ($6.25) K, 9, 6 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks

      Turn: ($6.25) 4 (2 players)
      SB bets $3, Hero raises to $8.25, SB calls $5.25

      River: ($22.75) 8 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks

      Total pot: $22.75 | Rake: $1.13

      Results:
      Hero had 2, 4 (one pair, fours).
      SB had Q, J (high card, King).
      Outcome: Hero won $21.62
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      QJ hand is quite standard if he calls pf. He has turn gutshot+fd and consider you´re raising turn with bottom pair, his Q and J outs might also be good. But the most improtant note is that he won´t 3-bet that board with gutshot and flushdraw, but rather calls.
      So I think if you get 3-bet on Axx board you´re likely against set or two pair and should fol your hand. I´d personally would bet/bet/bet 3 streets and if get raised at any point then evaluate and probably fold since I think he won´t really make moves against me after 42s hand
    • oedipa
      oedipa
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      thank you for your analysis :)
      I agree with you, that against reasonable player bet/bet/bet would be the best play.
      But what to do if the player is aggresive fish?
      in this case, I think that the fish was on tilt because of the 24s hand and he didn't give me credit.
      After playing this hand I was sure, that I overplayed the hand, but luckily, the fish overplayed his hand even more :)

      So for amusement, here are the results:
      Total pot: $120.40 | Rake: $3

      Results:
      Button had J, Q (one pair, Jacks).
      Hero had K, A (one pair, Aces).
      Outcome: Hero won $117.40
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by oedipa
      thank you for your analysis :)
      I agree with you, that against reasonable player bet/bet/bet would be the best play.
      But what to do if the player is aggresive fish?
      in this case, I think that the fish was on tilt because of the 24s hand and he didn't give me credit.
      After playing this hand I was sure, that I overplayed the hand, but luckily, the fish overplayed his hand even more :)

      So for amusement, here are the results:
      Total pot: $120.40 | Rake: $3

      Results:
      Button had J, Q (one pair, Jacks).
      Hero had K, A (one pair, Aces).
      Outcome: Hero won $117.40
      lol, well played at that case.
      I guess that 42s really got him and he did exactly opposite that I'd thought. Tried to bluff you outQ high no draw.