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[NL2-NL10] NL400SH TP and 2nd nut flush draw

    • undercover82
      Joined: 09.12.2006 Posts: 813
      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here) 

      2/4 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.8 by

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q:diamond: , K:club:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $14.00, BU folds, SB calls $12.00, BB folds.

      Flop: ($32.00) 7:club: , 4:club: , 5:club: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $22, SB raises to $67.00, Hero calls $45.00.

      Turn: ($166.00) Q:spade: (2 players)
      SB bets $125, Hero raises to $337.00 (All-In), SB calls $212.00.

      River: ($840.00) J:diamond:

      Final Pot: $840.00

      Opponent is solid and i ve seen him c/ring me before. Flop/turn play ?
  • 5 replies
    • aanty2000
      Joined: 22.10.2007 Posts: 484
      fold flop ? why geting into so much trouble with such a drawy board against sb?
    • rubysilesia
      Joined: 03.07.2007 Posts: 351
      I would call the turn, your hand is not bad but considering his betting and the board he may easily be ahead.

      Edit: I see that your commited with a call.
    • Thorsten77
      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      I fold or reraise the flop. If I think he has a good holding I fold; if I think he just has a one pair hand or a draw, I shove. I don't like calling as I won't get much if the fourth arrives.
    • dhw86
      Joined: 07.12.2006 Posts: 12,263
      i reraise the flop something below potsize and call to a shove.
      villain can raise anything here.
      and if hes got a strong hand, another club would kill the action.

      and btw: i wouldnt call a 21/11 player solid.
    • Sebra
      Joined: 01.08.2006 Posts: 1,122
      Remember, 1.5 AF is pretty low regarding he plays a similar vpip than we do (I have an AF of 3.5), so just considering the stats I don't think he c/r a draw that often.

      So I definitely wouldn't recommend 4-betting the flop and getting it in, because you will get it in bad to very bad and your foldequity at this point should be low.

      Standard would be to fold to the flopraise. The turn is really bad, because it improves your hand and you still have a good draw. But I still think he has a stronger than one pair hand regarding his big bet and his small AF. I think you get shown here a lot of flushs and sets.

      And I don't understand the turnraise. As I said, you are behind here sometimes, but don't have to worry about the possible draw, because you have it in your hand yourself. Just call the bet on the turn and if he pushs on the river really fold, very few people are capable of making this move with AcXx or valuebet 2nd pair again.