[NL2-NL10] NL400SH I hate midstacks

    • undercover82
      undercover82
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.12.2006 Posts: 813
      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here) 
      Position:
      Stack
      BU:
      $0
      SB:
      $201.22
      BB:
      $426.70
      MP2:
      $631.58
      CO:
      $159.58

      2/4 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.8 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 9:heart: , 9:spade:
      MP2 folds, Hero raises to $14.00, CO calls $14.00, 3 folds.

      Flop: ($34.00) K:diamond: , 2:diamond: , 4:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $24, CO raises to $48.00, Hero raises to $166.00, CO raises to $145.58 (All-In).

      Turn: ($345.58) J:club:
      River: ($345.58) 3:spade:


      Final Pot: $345.58





      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here) 
      BU:
      $208.50
      SB:
      $475.20
      CO:
      $127.50
      BB:
      $406

      2/4 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.8 by www.pokerstrategy.cc.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T:heart: , T:club:
      Hero raises to $14.00, CO folds, BU calls $14.00, 2 folds.

      Flop: ($34.00) J:spade: , 4:club: , 7:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $24, BU raises to $84.00, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $142.00




      2 similar hands where i have a medium pocket , there is one overcard on the flop and midstacked opponent is raising me. Both seem to be bad players (Not a big sample size but their VPIP so far and their stack indicates that)
  • 6 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I think folding is the safest way with both examples. If you have seen him re-raising with draw or bluff, then put him all-in, otherwise I would fold. You can probably get your money back with top pair or overpair
    • Timor83
      Timor83
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.06.2007 Posts: 2,793
      1) Do you have any specific reason why you are rereraising the flop? He's quite the loose-passive player it seems, so I don't see him reraising anything worse then a K...

      2) Nice hand.
    • xylere
      xylere
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      I think 13 hands sample isn`t solid enough to call him loose-passive... so there might be a reason)
    • undercover82
      undercover82
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.12.2006 Posts: 813
      It's obvious that the AF in grabem is wrong and is nowhere near the true AF of the opponents - hopefully they fix it soon. I dont have enough stats on either opponent , so i guess they should be treated as unknown with bad player image.
    • Sebra
      Sebra
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.08.2006 Posts: 1,122
      Don't know why you played them in different ways, these are both in the same category of hands.

      Problem is, that these midstacks do craaaazy things, so pound on your shoulder if you caught another T-high bluff and start complaining if they show you again K5o or J3o. Nevertheless, they won't fold anything.

      Without a much better read I let these spots go and wait for a "top pair"-type hand, you will stack them anyways.
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
      Black
      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      Against unknown opponent I tend to fold. If I saw the midstack macking these moves on boards that missed the PFA likely or if they raise middle pair hands/draws in such situations I call - but I want to have a little read on them.