[NL20-NL50] [sh] NL 50 nut flush draw

    • DeMarcohsp
      DeMarcohsp
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      Full Tilt Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      saw flop

      Hero (MP) ($51.45)
      CO ($30)
      Button ($50)
      SB ($51.60)
      BB ($23.35)
      UTG ($60.45)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with A, 7
      1 fold, Hero bets $1.50, CO calls $1.50, 1 fold, SB calls $1.25, BB calls $1

      Flop: ($6) Q, K, 2 (4 players)
      SB checks, BB bets $5, Hero raises to $14, 2 folds, BB raises to $21.85 (All-In), Hero calls $7.85

      Turn: ($49.70) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: ($49.70) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Total pot: $49.70 | Rake: $2.45

      Is it okay to play it allin vs the half stack?



      Board: K:heart: Q:heart: 2:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    48.97%  48.97%   0.00% { KJs+, KJo+, JTo, JhTh, Th9h, 8h7h, 7h6h }
      MP3    51.03%  51.03%   0.00% { Ah7h }


      Any adjustements to this range?
      Villains is 39/3/2.8 over 80 hands
  • 10 replies
    • Tim64
      Tim64
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      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      I just call the flop if I continue. We dont want Sb to ch/R his 2pair or set of 2's and then we get priced out of the draw.

      SB might also decide to come along with JQ or T9 or whatever in which case our odds are much better.

      If its HU, I dont mind raising, but I probably just shove myself since we cant raise/fold so we may as well claim the last bet for maximum feQ, since the more hands villan folds, the better for us.

      the range looks about right, though 7h8h isnt possible ;)
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      nh
      I´d also raise flop and at that point I´d be pot committed to the pot
      BB is also shortstack so you don´t mind getting there all-in with A high flushdraw
    • Tim64
      Tim64
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      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,401
      Kaitz,

      what do you do if SB check/shoves the flop?

      thanks
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by Tim64
      Kaitz,

      what do you do if SB check/shoves the flop?

      thanks
      I´m not happy but I think we have to still call his shove. QQ/KK is unlikely and against KQ/55 and some combo draws like JhTh we should have enough equity
    • VTomukas
      VTomukas
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      Joined: 30.12.2007 Posts: 251
      And why not just shove the flop, to maximize fold equity? One way or another we are commited, so why not use as much FE, as we can get?
    • mrxLT
      mrxLT
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      Joined: 02.09.2008 Posts: 435
      edit: never mind
    • Tim64
      Tim64
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      I think we become too exploitable if we just shove the flop. We wouldnt just shove KK/QQ here (which we can have), so when we shove its obvious to our opponents we have a draw so that can play perfectly against us.
    • VTomukas
      VTomukas
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      I'd say You overestimate NL50 players... :)
    • Tim64
      Tim64
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      prolly. but if you move up in limits and shove the nfd on most flops in a mwp vs a check and a bet, youre going to lose $$$.

      we want to get into good habits, after all.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by VTomukas
      And why not just shove the flop, to maximize fold equity? One way or another we are commited, so why not use as much FE, as we can get?
      problem is that you don´t really do that with any other hands and you don´t let him option to bet/call or bet/shove worse fd-s