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[NL20-NL50] [FR] JJ nl25

    • franeczek
      Joined: 22.03.2009 Posts: 2,439
      No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1096809
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      MP1: $32.69
      MP2: $8.65
      CO: $15.35
      BTN: $3.75
      Hero (SB): $25.91
      BB: $13.41
      UTG: $11.10
      UTG+1: $9.32
      UTG+2: $3.15

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with J :diamond: J :club:
      UTG raises to $0.50, 4 folds, CO calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, UTG raises to $4.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $21.25, UTG calls $6.85 all in

      Flop: ($22.95) Q :heart: 5 :heart: Q :club: (2 players - 1 is all in)

      Turn: ($22.95) Q :diamond: (2 players - 1 is all in)

      River: ($22.95) T :spade: (2 players - 1 is all in)

      Villian is 47/7/23 after 102 hands but he wasn't possitional aware- 23% raise first from EP so I though that I have here clear value raise.
      His min 4-bet sucks (he had 0% 3-bet/4-bet stat then). Should I just give him credit??
  • 5 replies
    • Tim64
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,028
      Should I just give him credit??

      Think its fine for 40bb. We need 39% to get the money in profitably, which we have against TT+/Ako+.

      For 100bb I just call his small 4bet and hope to spike a set/play carefully post flop.
    • MatejM47
      Joined: 21.01.2010 Posts: 1,193
      Considering his very tight raising range you don't have a clear value raise and might wanna just call him preflop instead of 3-betting him since your never really comfortable getting it in. I mean JJ doesn't really do that well against a 7% OR range since this type of player probably limps all the smaller PP and raising mostly JJ+ and strong brodways so you have only about 50% equity against his range. And once he 4-bets your pretty much crushed.

      Basically my point is even tho his VPIP is 50%, his still a nit when he puts more then 1BB into the pot. And this type of player probably only gets in preflop with KK+ and since his a fish he probably doesn't addapt to being short stacked and still only plays his hole cards he probably doesn't go broke lighter just because he has only 40bb. And even if his doing it with JJ+ and AK you still don't get the right odds to ship it since i siriously doubt it his ever doing this as a bluff.

      So i think you actually have to fold considering his basically a nit that didn't show any preflop aggression up to now so i think he will show you the nuts more often then not.
    • franeczek
      Joined: 22.03.2009 Posts: 2,439
      I wrote in first post that he wasn't positional aware. He had raise 1st or VPIP 23% after 103 hands. for some fish reasons he was opening with raise only from EP/MP. So I thought that I have value in raise cause he is not folding anything.
    • JonikoP
      Joined: 15.05.2010 Posts: 600
      Seems close to me.

      Don't like 3-betting and folding though. I think you should either fold or 3-bet planning to get it in. If you're planning on committing yourself, I'd probably make your 3-bet bigger.
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      against min-raise you´re ahead his opening range, so I like 3-betting with JJ and you can´t really fold to 4-bet since very likely he is also 4-betting with TT and AK, so you can shove for value