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[NL20-NL50] SH JJ as overpair OOP

    • martins1337
      Joined: 07.06.2009 Posts: 273
      villain 13.3/12.2 90hands
      i bet river to get called mby by Ax and 88-TT
      once he raises, I need to fold? is anybody raising here with something I beat?
      or check/call is the best option

      Full Tilt - $0.25 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      Hero (BB): $25.00
      UTG: $25.00
      CO: $26.55
      BTN: $25.00
      SB: $25.93

      SB posts SB $0.10, Hero posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has J:spade: J:club:

      fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.85, fold, Hero calls $0.60

      Flop: ($1.80, 2 players) 6:club: 3:spade: 3:heart:
      Hero checks, BTN bets $1.25, Hero calls $1.25

      Turn: ($4.30, 2 players) 6:heart:
      Hero checks, BTN checks

      River: ($4.30, 2 players) 7:club:
      Hero bets $2.50, BTN raises to $6.00, Hero ?
  • 3 replies
    • Tim64
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 8,028
      think its fine - normally when we face a raise (especially a small one) on the river, we are behind, so folding is probably right. (But its cheap and we may can make a note of how villain plays so calling isnt super bad- though flolding is better)

      Definitely like the bet on the river. We want to get called by all those hands you mentioned, that would not bet themselves since the fear we have 6x.

      If you check, all worse hands check/behind and we still need to call a bet since our hand looks weak (and villain doesnt bluff often since the board didnt change much). So we pay the same amount when we are behind but dont win anything if we are ahead and we dont bet.

      So, nh. You could also 3b preflop (but calling is ok vs a tight player).
    • falcone1983
      Joined: 17.05.2009 Posts: 5,420
      3bet pre, as played raise flop for value (it's going to work vs all but the tightest villains).
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      If I call pf I´d lead all 3 streets for value. i think c/r flop is fine, just it is hard him to call you down with too many worse hands, so you should get also value with smaller overpairs if you just bet/bet/bet
      I would personally b/c river. I think players won´t check back enough 6x hands, especially if he is so tight and I don´t see them raising for value overpairs, so most of the times he either has there 77 or A high that decides to turn his hand into bluff