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[NL2-NL10] Badbeat or Bad Play?

    • gxtwo
      gxtwo
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.12.2010 Posts: 1,268
      this has happend a few time today. im starting to think im playing it wrong but im sure there just badbeats. would like some clarification before i continue


      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BB:
      $2.00
      MP2:
      $1.63
      MP3:
      $2.46
      CO:
      $14.26
      BU:
      $6.48
      SB (Hero):
      $2.90


      Preflop: Hero is SB with A, Q.
      3 folds, BU calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.20, BB folds, BU calls $0.15.

      Flop: ($0.45) J, A, Q (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.70, BU calls $2.70.

      Turn: ($5.85) K (2 players)


      River: ($5.85) 8 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $5.85.
      Results follow:

      BU shows a straight, ace high(Q T).
      Hero shows two pairs, aces and queens(A Q).

      BU wins with a straight, ace high(Q T).

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      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      CO (Hero):
      $1.83
      BU:
      $15.25
      SB:
      $3.61
      BB:
      $4.78
      MP2:
      $1.73
      MP3:
      $2.85


      Preflop: Hero is CO with J, A.
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, BU folds, SB calls $0.18, BB folds.

      Flop: ($0.45) J, T, 5 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.63, SB calls $1.63.

      Turn: ($3.71) A (2 players)


      River: ($3.71) 2 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $3.71.

      Results follow:

      Hero shows two pairs, aces and jacks(Jh Ad).
      SB shows a straight, ace high(Qd Kc).

      SB wins with a straight, ace high(Qd Kc).
  • 5 replies
    • thazar
      thazar
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.09.2009 Posts: 6,561
      In those cases they are bad beats but I think it is a bad play to bet respectively 6x and over 3x pot size
    • gxtwo
      gxtwo
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.12.2010 Posts: 1,268
      could you elaborate a little? i dont think i understand.

      i thought the idea of SSS was to be all-in if you hit?
    • thazar
      thazar
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.09.2009 Posts: 6,561
      No you be between 1/2 pot to pot size if you hit. Then if your bet is 1/2 your stack or more then you go all in because you would be pot committed. So for example on the both hand you could have be $0.4 or $0.45 because it is quite drawy but you have 2 top pairs and TPTK respectively.
    • gxtwo
      gxtwo
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.12.2010 Posts: 1,268
      i understand it abit better now.
      thanks for your help
    • Gerv
      Gerv
      Bronze
      Joined: 07.05.2008 Posts: 17,678
      Mostly on the Turn you are going to be all-in Gxtwo. betting so big like this will only result in people calling with a lot of hands that have equity against you and/or hands that you dont beat at all

      The 2nd hand when you got beat by KQ illustrates a hand that has equity against you

      The first hand is unlucky :(

      best regards,
      Gerv