[NL20-NL50] nl50 Rush - QQ pre 150bb deep 4b pot

    • Tim64
      Joined: 02.11.2008 Posts: 7,400
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($55.95)
      BB ($23.75)
      UTG ($49.80)
      UTG+1 ($71.45)
      Hero ($73.80)
      BTN ($72.20)

      Dealt to Hero Q:club: Q:spade:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN raises to $5, fold, fold, Hero raises to $11.50, BTN calls $6.50

      FLOP ($23.75) T:diamond: J:spade: 5:diamond:

      Hero bets $13.50, BTN calls $13.50

      TURN ($50.75) T:diamond: J:spade: 5:diamond: 2:club:

      Hero checks, BTN bets $26.50, Hero folds

      BTN wins $48.25

      villain 16/14/2 wts 44, 127 hs, 3b 6% overall. 130hs only.
      Is my turn play too weak?
      My reasoning is, if i bet turn the only worse hands that can likely call are AdKd. As I expect AdKd to ch/b turn often and AKo to fold on flop I assume I am beat when he bets - all I beat (aside from bluffs) is 99...

  • 4 replies
    • DeMarcohsp
      Joined: 15.06.2010 Posts: 1,975
      I like your play, apart from JJ/TT Bu will often have AA there and we dont want to commit ourselves vs a range like that just hoping he has AK and is bluffing 2 streets.

      Still I would make it bigger pre like 13.5-14.5 because we are OOP and deep and I would probably fold to a 5bet( even though I dont know if we should, but I am pretty sure villain will have very often KK+)
    • falcone1983
      Joined: 17.05.2009 Posts: 5,420
      Pre is definitely too small.

      Folding to a 5bet would be pretty disgusting, although it MIGHT be correct (doubt it though).

      Postflop is pretty damn sick. Folding an overpair in a 4bet is not something I'm used to doing, but I can't really see what you beat.
    • Dublimax
      Joined: 22.11.2008 Posts: 2,233
      I also think that your 4B pre is too small.
      If you were thinking of folding to 5B then I would just call 3B even OOP (I think you get decent playability w QQ)

      I would bet more on the flop like 17$.

      The only problem that I see w your play is that it looks so weak (barely more than 1/2 pot bet on the flop and C behind on turn). So I think that he can bluff you easily on the turn.

      Once he calls the flop I'm not sure what to do on turn. Question imo is can he float in 4B pot to your smallish flop CBet?
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I would usually just c/rai on the turn, since you should have reasons to 4-bet and although TT/JJ got there I don´t really see why you should bet flop thinking you´re ahead and then c/f turn suddenly only giving him only sets or KK/AA that beat your hand