[NL2-NL10] Nl5, nut on flush draw turn ?

    • newsat
      newsat
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.02.2008 Posts: 3,224
      I became nut on turn, but there are 2 diamonds.

      So I bet pot size.

      Should I bet less like 3/4pot or 2/3pot ?


      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $5.82
      SB (Hero):
      $5.00
      BB:
      $14.35
      MP1:
      $12.58
      MP2:
      $7.36
      MP3:
      $10.71
      CO:
      $3.62


      Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K.
      MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.05, 2 folds, BU calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BU calls $0.25.

      Flop: ($0.7) J, Q, 3 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.44, BU calls $0.44.

      Turn: ($1.58) T (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.51, BU folds, Hero gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $1.58.
  • 7 replies
    • fryandspicy
      fryandspicy
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.05.2010 Posts: 440
      Yeah it's good to raise a little less. 3/4 pot or even a little more is probably fine, but most likely he was just trying to float on the flop or had a medium strength hand and would fold to any bet size on the turn

      Nice hand!
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      you can try to go c/r to the turn and the shoving any river.
      If he has there draw I think he would bet quite often and also he would very likely bet his Qx, Jx hands. He might not call you down with Jx, but if you check and bet river, he may easily call with just one pair hands and it is good to balance times if you´re going to c/f turn
      As played: I´d personally bet 1$, since I think 1.5$ is a little big and you don´t really want that hands like AT/AJ would fold to your turn bet.
    • Mayana1987
      Mayana1987
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.12.2010 Posts: 47
      Hey Kaitz!
      You're saying that a c/r would've been better (or more profitable, probably) in general, but if you did wanna bet it'd be 1$? thx. M
    • newsat
      newsat
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.02.2008 Posts: 3,224
      but If he check behind after my check, and if he is flush draw,

      Didn't I give him a free river card ?


      I need not to protect turn ?
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by Mayana1987
      Hey Kaitz!
      You're saying that a c/r would've been better (or more profitable, probably) in general, but if you did wanna bet it'd be 1$? thx. M
      yes, but you can mix it up by betting 1$ or c/r to 2.5x his bet size if he best around half pot size.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by newsat
      but If he check behind after my check, and if he is flush draw,

      Didn't I give him a free river card ?


      I need not to protect turn ?
      flushdraw is only very few part of the hands that he might have there and usually players tend to bet with their draws, since usually they don´t have showdown value and they want to take pot right now
      You need to protect your hand on the turn but at the same time you need to get value hands that has close to 0 equity against your nuts, so I think sometimes you can mix it up by c/r turn
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello newsat,

      I would like to add only that against unknown it's better to Bet your own since I see a lot more value by betting ourself into that, since he still may Check behind any kind of draw from what we could still get value. But I would likely Bet a bit smaller, ~$1,20.

      Best regards.