$EV Diff

    • jdnismo
      jdnismo
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.07.2010 Posts: 193
      Hi, I have a question: in HEM there's a column which is "$EV Diff". What does this mean? Is it just EV?

      For this hand, for example, it says my $EV Diff. is -$0.83.

      Full Tilt Poker $1 + $0.10 Madness (Sup Turbo) No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t50/t100 Blinds - 4 players - View hand 1110995
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      Hero (BB): t420 4.20 BBs
      CO: t380 3.80 BBs
      BTN: t780 7.80 BBs
      SB: t1120 11.20 BBs

      Pre Flop: (t150) Hero is BB with A :club: J :spade:
      2 folds, SB raises to t1120 all in, Hero calls t320 all in

      Flop: (t840) 8 :spade: Q :spade: 3 :club: (2 players - 2 are all in)

      Turn: (t840) 9 :spade: (2 players - 2 are all in)

      River: (t840) 5 :diamond: (2 players - 2 are all in)

      Final Pot: t840
      Hero shows A :club: J :spade: (Ace Queen high)
      SB shows 2 :heart: A :heart: (Ace Queen high)
      Hero wins t840



      According to ICM this is an obvious call, so that is +EV, and also I had the best hand preflop when all-in so that is +EV also. So what is this $EV Diff?
  • 4 replies
    • fryandspicy
      fryandspicy
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.05.2010 Posts: 440
      EV diff. is how much you win on average minus how much you actually won.
    • jdnismo
      jdnismo
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.07.2010 Posts: 193
      Ok, so why is the example above a minus number?
    • MatejM47
      MatejM47
      Black
      Joined: 21.01.2010 Posts: 1,193
      Well even if you have the best hand like AA vs KK and go all in for 100BB, you shouldn't win the whole 200bb pot, but only 160bb from the pot since you had 80% equity. So when ever you go broke and win, you win 200BB so the EV difference is -40bb.
    • HannesZ
      HannesZ
      Headadmin
      Headadmin
      Joined: 30.06.2010 Posts: 16,315
      Originally posted by MatejM47
      Well even if you have the best hand like AA vs KK and go all in for 100BB, you shouldn't win the whole 200bb pot, but only 160bb from the pot since you had 80% equity. So when ever you go broke and win, you win 200BB so the EV difference is -40bb.
      Correct.

      So this value doesn't say if a push or call was good. It just says if you run over or under the estimated value.

      So in your case the equity in your hand was:


      Board:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      UTG    67.98%  64.11%   3.87% { A :club: J :spade: }
      UTG+1  32.02%  28.15%   3.87% { A :heart: 2 :heart: }


      This means you only win 67.98% of the time. You won this hand, but you shouldn't always. Thats the reason why the EV is minus.

      If you have further questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

      Best regards,
      Hannes