[NL2-NL10] NL10 SH. Overbet shoving the river

    • parry
      Joined: 11.09.2008 Posts: 92
      Included 2 hands here where I've over bet shoved the river (first with the nuts and second with the 3rd nuts). Would like some feed back on whether you think I've left some value on the table by shoving and any comments on my thought process during the hand would be appreciated, thanks.

      PKR $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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      CO: $2.26 - VPIP: 60, PFR: 3, 3B: 0, AF: 1.6, Hands: 35
      Hero (BTN): $10.22
      SB: $4.51 - VPIP: 24, PFR: 8, 3B: 0, AF: Infinity, Hands: 38
      BB: $12.07 - VPIP: 63, PFR: 13, 3B: 0, AF: 1.1, Hands: 38
      UTG: $13.56 - VPIP: 31, PFR: 12, 3B: 0, AF: 2.4, Hands: 91
      MP: $10.32 - VPIP: 16, PFR: 4, 3B: 5, AF: 1.9, Hands: 113

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BTN with 8 :spade: 8 :heart:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30

      Flop: ($0.85) 3 :heart: 8 :diamond: 8 :club: (2 players)
      BB bets $0.63, Hero calls $0.63

      Turn: ($2.11) 9 :heart: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $1.05, BB calls $1.05

      River: ($4.21) J :heart: (2 players)
      BB bets $1.55, Hero raises to $8.14, BB folds

      Pre flop - BB has defended every button so far so expected a call and couldn't really give him a range
      Flop - BB donk bets out about 3/4 pot. Thought they probably had a 3 or small / medium pocket pair as I hadn't seen them donk bet total air. So i just flat called in position hoping they lead out on the turn.
      Turn - After the BB checks I put out a small 1/2 pot bet trying build the pot and to make it look like i was just taking a stab at the it after their check.
      River - BB leads out again after playing the turn passively. Thought that they either had 33, 99 which would pay off my shove or they were just taking another stab at the pot which would probably fold to any raise.

      PKR $10.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players
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      SB: $15.96 - VPIP: 48, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 2.4, Hands: 64
      BB: $4.28
      Hero (CO): $14.29
      BTN: $12.81

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with K :club: K :diamond:
      Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, SB calls $0.35, 1 fold

      Flop: ($0.90) 5 :club: 9 :diamond: 9 :spade: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.70, SB raises to $1.85, Hero calls $1.15

      Turn: ($4.60) 7 :diamond: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks

      River: ($4.60) 9 :club: (2 players)
      SB bets $1.10, Hero raises to $12.04, SB calls $10.94

      Pre flop - As with the previous hand the villain was playing a loose so had a wide calling range here.
      Flop - CBet gets checked raised. Seen them do this once of twice so far when they catch part of the flop so I was going to re-raise but then figured they'd only call/ship it with a nine or 55 and fold all they draws and medium pairs so I'd be better off playing the hand in position.
      Turn - SB checks again. Didn't bet here for same reason as on the flop, 7 would of completed a 68 gutshot and I'd be getting check raised by any other made hand.
      River - SB leads out with a small bet when the 3rd nine drops. At this point think I'm only beat by a 9 as i was discounting them having AA. Shoving here was more marginal as i thought I'd get called if they had a 5 or 7 but maybe not if they had the straight but they might call a smaller raise (obviously i was willing to pay them off if they had quads)
  • 1 reply
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello parry,

      Please! Don't post more than 1 hand into 1 thread. A lot easier to evaluate for the judges and also better evaluations.

      Hand #1
      Bet Tun bigger, ~$1,50 and likely shoving there directly in is fine.

      Hand #2
      I don't mind such a shove on river against so loose opponents, they may still Call us with any kind of FH there, even sometimes with hands like 55, 77 or whatever or other PPs.

      Best regards.